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Hello, All
Probably been beat up here before, but the local muzzleloading shop suggested using a 451 in my brass framed 1858's. (They do shave lead with the smaller ball) So inquiring, is it the loading of the 454 ball that puts the stress on the brass frame or the shooting? If loading with a loading tool instead of in the gun, would it cause frame stretching?
TIA
 
It is the shooting, and it is from a combination of ball fit and powder amount - so basically, it comes down to pressure

If the 451 is shaving lead, anything larger will just be harder to load and shaving more lead.
 
Loading and shooting a brass-framed 1858 revolver with a .454 ball can indeed put stress on the frame, both during loading and shooting. Some key points to consider:

Loading: The process of loading the ball into the chamber can cause stress on the frame, especially if you're using a larger ball that requires more force to load. Using a loading tool can help reduce the stress on the frame during loading.

Shooting: Firing the revolver also puts stress on the frame, due to the recoil and impact of the ball exiting the barrel.

Charge amount: To reduce the stress on the brass frame, it's recommended to use lighter charges, typically around 15-25 grains of black powder. This will help to minimize the recoil and impact on the frame.
 

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