I've been using Hornady XTPs with the black MMP sabot in my Savage ML-II.. want to try something different. I wanted to try Hornady #4500s and/or Barnes #457010's. However, Barnes says theirs will be out of stock till March.. just in time for muzzleloader season (NOT!).. Has anyone tried the Nosler #51834 with orange MMPs from a muzzleloader? I cn't find much info on them for MLs.