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sg.ellis2 said:Reference your post that the rifle couldn't hit a 4 foot x 4 foot piece of cardboard at 37 yards. Could you clarify? Are you saying the groups were off the mark greater than 2 feet when aiming at the center of the 4 foot by 4 foot board?? Or are you saying the groups were so much larger than 4 foot by 4 foot in diameter that they left a donut sized hole in the middle bigger than the board???
I'm pretty good at math, and just crunching the numbers reference a scope being mounted off, for the bore axis and the scope tube center to be askew greater than two feet at only 37 yards, with the receiver forward and rear base holes being 5.11 inches apart, the front and rear mounts would be markedly off a good 0.090". If you include maxing out the scope adjustment range, it would be even more askew. Be it the short action receiver was machined that far off, or the scope being mounted that far off, how was this not noticed when mounting the scope? Alarm bells should be going off when aligning the rings, if two piece, and if one piece, the collimator would indicate a big problem, long before bullets are sent down range on paper. If not talking scope, but talking the factory fixed sights, the front and rear sights would be so far askew that it would be noticeable to the naked eye, being they would be mounted off greater than half an inch.
The statement "couldn't hit a 4 foot x 4 foot piece of cardboard at 37 yards" sounds very dramatic. But in reality, who mounted the scope? What pieces and parts did they use, and how was such a large error missed during the mounting process??
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Concerning all the answers to your questions concerning that specific rifle, go to the linked web page and please call Matt Watts. I'm sure he'll be able to answer further questions, as he sold the rifle, returned the rifle to Remington and had the NEW replacement rifle sent back to him without explanation. I like you, have no clue who did what, only what I was told to me by Matt, who also gave me permission to use his name, web page link and the information he provided. He can better answer your questions with facts.