Sabbot question

[Tony gilbert]

Can you sabbot a round ball or should I use a patch

 

[MrTom]

You can but may need to downsize the ball size slightly. Someone offers a sabot/roundball combo but the maker's name slips my mind right now.

 

[ElDiablo]

Used to be a product called Poly-Patch. Didn’t work real well if I recall. Still have a few in my old supply box.

 

[deermanok]

You can but may need to downsize the ball size slightly. Someone offers a sabot/roundball combo but the maker's name slips my mind right now.

I believe it was called the hardball, by Hornady. A hardened round ball in a sabot. Don't know if they're still available.

 

[Slingingslugs]

Years ago I played around with shooting .45 round ball with a .50 cal/.45 sabot over 50grn 2f black w/ no 11 cap in my old tc thunderhawk shadow. Shot great out to 50 yrds w/ iron sights. It was cheap smoke and really fun

 

[Slingingslugs]

Don't remember the ball size but I remember the sabots were green 20 yrs ago probably...powder, caps, sabots and balls probably didn't cost a $20 all together the good ol days

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Yep Hornady still makes the Hardball. I only ever see it at Dunhams or small LGS. Looks like they stuff a .440rb into a 44/50 green sabot.

 

[GUN NUT]

Can you sabbot a round ball or should I use a patch

I think I have some 50 cal poly patch it uses a 490 ball if you would like to try them sent me your info and I will mail them to you

 

[Bowanna]

Yep Hornady still makes the Hardball. I only ever see it at Dunhams or small LGS. Looks like they stuff a .440rb into a 44/50 green sabot.

Midway still lists them but are discontinued. My question, by Midway or by Hornady?

 

[Tony gilbert]

Don't remember the ball size but I remember the sabots were green 20 yrs ago probably...powder, caps, sabots and balls probably didn't cost a $20 all together the good ol days

I made the round ball

 

[Confederate rifleman]

Been known to load a .457 ball in a Harvester crush rib 45/50 sabot. I put a wad underneath the ball as a cushion. Otherwise, it gets a bit skwooshed. You can also run it through a .452 sizer for a bit more bearing surface.
I find the need for at least a 50 grain charge of 3f, or the sabot doesn't obturate and you get a bore full of silly string.
Nice plinking load, that will cancel a woodchuck's life subscription pretty neatly.

 

[GUN NUT]

OK I found two different kind of sabot aka poly patch both for .490 round ball I have them packed and will ship to you Monday good luck with them

 

[Bowanna]

There's a place on the web, bonanza, say they have one pack of 50 poly patches. Must be made of gold $87.88 for the 50.

 

[ElDiablo]

Holy cow! Gold is right!

 

[Bowanna]

Holy cow! Gold is right!

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Reckin the prb comes with it?

 

[ElDiablo]

Reckin the prb comes with it?

It better for that price!

 

[Bowanna]

 

[David02]

Optics planet.com an deer Creek has them 50 cal. 485 hard ball like 12 or 13 dollars a nox

 

[GBG]

FWIW
About 15 years ago, I tested some cast .360 round balls, lightly lubed and pressed into a .45/357 sabot, then shot from a TC Omega. I kept increasing the powder charge all the way to 150 grains(Volume) Pyrodex RS. I was amazed that they were still accurate from a 1 in 28 inch twist.

IIRC the muzzle velocity was 2800+ but don't hold me to that exactly, my memory isn't what it was. I do know they were the fastest Pyrodex fueled projectiles I've ever shot. Were these loads needed or practical? No, but they were fun to plink with.

I used them out to 25-30 yards on garden pests and armadillos. The little balls shot like a laser beam and if I missed the varmint, they seemed to vaporize on contact with the ground. I test fired one 10' straight down into rain-soaked lawn. The crater was almost as big as my fist, and if I found any lead it was just few tiny specks.

 

[GUN NUT]

Patches are on the way USPS