Woodman Machined Copper Hollow point 40 Caliber 175g Bullet

[ronlaughlin]

Between the bottles and the muzzle is 25 yard. Powder charge is 80 grain Blackhorn. Bullet actual weight is 174.8 grain.













Bullet destroyed the first three bottles. Holed the fourth, and fifth bottles, and made a hole into the sixth bottle, but did not penetrate the sixth bottle; did bounce off to the right about seven feet into the snow.

 

[CatamountRob]

That’s less than impressive expansion. I thought it would look more like a peeled back Barnes bullet.

 

[ronlaughlin]

Great penetration; lots of damage.

 

[Steelheader323]

Needed more velocity by the looks..maybe a good smokeless option? Then again..I’d want it to expand at 300 plus yards as well..

 

[LBAhunter]

Needed more velocity by the looks..maybe a good smokeless option? Then again..I’d want it to expand at 300 plus yards as well..

Maybe full formed or annealed and smooth formed for 40 with a quick powder for quick obturation. Although, I could be wrong.

 

[ronlaughlin]

Better photo?

 

[CatamountRob]

That’s basically zero expansion, I’m not surprised it penetrated well. The petaled portion appears to be no larger than the rest of the bullet. Not a bullet I’d choose to hunt with.

 

[LHR]

Just needs to have that hollow point opened up a tad, and/or annealed?

 

[LBAhunter]

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To me, it looks like it needs to be leaned on hard!!!! (meaning the faster the better!!)

 

[Ninering62]

To me, it looks like it needs to be leaned on hard!!!! (meaning the faster the better!!)

That bullet could prob use a nice shot of N110 behind it

 

[LBAhunter]

That bullet could prob use a nice shot of N110 behind it

Exactly what I was thinking. Just a ....lol....

 

[smittysmith2]

That bullet could prob use a nice shot of N110 behind it

I’d like to see the difference im pretty sure-you are correct but like to see the difference

 

[mwwoodman]

fixed my typo's...
I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grv of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I always used 120 grv and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

 

[LBAhunter]

I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grw of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I used 120 grw and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

Would be a dandy youth load (=/< 100yds).

 

[Ninering62]

I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grw of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I used 120 grw and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

I’ll jump on board with your 195g. Can you match or beat what the Barnes cost?
I paid 30.00 shipped per 15pk my last order. They just went up from 28.00 before Christmas.

 

[LHR]

I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grw of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I used 120 grw and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

Please get a 240 gr to shoot in the 1-20 twist, thats a min required for elk in Utah .

 

[CatamountRob]

120 grains by weight is 25 grains over the max for most guns if I’m not mistaken and 120 grains of powder is a pretty stout load for a 150 yards and under bullet.

 

[Ninering62]

120 grains by weight is 25 grains over the max for most guns if I’m not mistaken and 120 grains of powder is a pretty stout load for a 150 yards and under bullet.

I thought that 84g W/120g V was the new “ standard max load “ for most modern inlines. I could be wrong though.
I’ll take a faster, flatter, lighter bullet for inside 300yds any day of the wk over a slower heavier bullet with more recoil.
That really is a stout charge for inside 150yds agreed. That could be cut way back for that short range use.
The 195g Barnes are leaving my Accura at 2480fps. Pretty sweet.

 

[Decay]

I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grw of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I used 120 grw and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

Mark. Can you make a smokeless Patriot specifically for this bullet?

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These bullets are knurled. When I look at Mark Woodman's website the photos show they are not knurled. Who did this? How? Why? I'm not being critical, I want to learn a lot about this bullet. Thanks.

 

[Decay]

I wouldn't use that bullet with under 100 grw of BH209, 120 would be better. I have killed deer with that, but I used 120 grw and it expanded nicely. The bullet in the pic attached went in the front shoulder of a deer quartering to me. It was found in the rear quarter. It made is through almost the entire length of the deer and retained all the weight. It is only 175 grains, and I would not shoot more than 150 yards because the BC is low.
This bullet is basically the same as a Barnes 175 Redhot. We also do a 195 like the Barnes Expander. I am preparing to do some heavier versons as well.

Can you tell us what rifle you used this in? Barrel, twist, length,etc. How about a smokeless load recommendation?