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I figured as much... I tried to be gentle!uh-oh .... them's fightin' words around these parts ..
I figured as much... I tried to be gentle!uh-oh .... them's fightin' words around these parts ..
So in your opinion, the weight of the Mountaineer and/or Disc Extreme would be worth the added barrel length/accuracy?Knight has their .52s Disc Extreme rifles on sale for what you’d put in a CVA entry rifle. Lead bullets aren’t hard to come by - if you’ve put as much research in as it seems - finding the right load won’t be hard either.
The silver sabot from Knight will allow you to shoot jacketed big pistol bullets out of state, and they’re easy to get as well.
The gain of the Ultra lite in loss of rifle weight over the Disc Extreme isn’t as much as its made out to be - IMHO. The Ultra Lite is a great stock, but it’s not making the rifle shoot any better than your good load will.
Agree to disagree, but I suppose performance is a better way to put it?Barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy.
Cva does, but their wording is pretty weak, imo... "CVA’s Accura and Paramount rifles are guaranteed to outshoot any muzzleloader that you’ve ever shot – or your money back." - CVA Accuracy Guarantee.Knight guarantees MOA accuracy to 200 yards. Granted that’s with their load. CVA guarantees NOTHING.
Weak is an understatement. How would one measure or quantify any of that statement? Impossible, it’s not specific, measurable or attainable. That’s CVAs easy out.Cva does, but their wording is pretty weak, imo... "CVA’s Accura and Paramount rifles are guaranteed to outshoot any muzzleloader that you’ve ever shot – or your money back." - CVA Accuracy Guarantee.
That clearance price can't be beat. I have several 52 DEs plus molds from 300 to 610 grains and extra breechplugs for all. I can use #10 or musket caps, full plastic jackets, bare 209 primer or power stem ignition on any of them. I've never been without some way to shoot regardless of shortages. Also, the 52 DEs are the most gun you can buy for the money if larger than deer game is a possibility - 375 grns @ 1900+ fps up to 535 grains @ 1650 fps (w/ RS or 777). I've got an email from Knight Tech stating any weight bullet the twist will stabilize is safe to shoot with max recommended powder charges.Knight has their .52s Disc Extreme rifles on sale for what you’d put in a CVA entry rifle.
My LK-93s, original DISC, DISC Extreme, and Ultra Lite have all shot close enough in grouping to be a non point of discussion inside the 200 yards that Knight advertises.
I’m a guy that will notice the 10 - 12 pounds off of my spare tire before I truly notice 10 - 12 ounces of rifle weight - YMMV
That said - I think the Ultra Lite is a solid investment, and I’ve enjoyed mine. But, I don’t think I’m missing much if I’m shooting a DISC Extreme. I have had a couple Mountaineers, they’re heavier, and shoot just as well as the rest - but they got sold
Well now you've muddied the waters!That clearance price can't be beat. I have several 52 DEs plus molds from 300 to 610 grains and extra breechplugs for all. I can use #10 or musket caps, full plastic jackets, bare 209 primer or power stem ignition on any of them. I've never been without some way to shoot regardless of shortages. Also, the 52 DEs are the most gun you can buy for the money if larger than deer game is a possibility - 375 grns @ 1900+ fps up to 535 grains @ 1650 fps (w/ RS or 777). I've got an email from Knight Tech stating any weight bullet the twist will stabilize is safe to shoot with max recommended powder charges.
I also have two CVA Optima V2 pistols. They're my favorite handguns plus the most convenient and fun to shoot. I'm sure CVA rifles are the same. The only thing I'd change with CVAs is they have a max bullet weight of 400 grains - again if bigger game might be on the menu (Full disclosure: I grew up reading all Elmer Keith wrote). I love CVAs & Knights; IMO it's just personal preference and you can't go wrong with either one. I'll be keeping both so long as I can pull a trigger.
Sorry, DISC Extreme, the rifles Knight have on sale right now.what are DEs?
Ooooh... I thought it was referring to the molds... What do you use for those?Sorry, DISC Extreme, the rifles Knight have on sale right now.
https://www.muzzleloaders.com/product-category/muzzleloaders/disc-extreme-muzzleloader/
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