Bullet Choices

[smokepolehall]

Ok always trying to learn. I shot a big Doe for our area 150-160 lb on the hoof. I used a 230 gr XTP, shot was 104 yds ranged. Pass through but 2 nd deer with both shoulders blood shot. Typical load 75 gr T7 2 f, so it was not hot. Would a 250 gr bullet being a bit heavier do less on the blood shot n still do a pass through? There was small flecks of lead on the off side, not what i was wanting to see. I have some Barnes .451 250 gr n Fury 250's.

 

[lonewolf]

To me a muzzleloader does a lot more shock damage,most of ones I've shot are blood shot to some point.

 

[rangerod]

The Barnes and the Fury are both good bullets. I've shot both but much more of the Barnes. Great hunting bullet.Is the seventy grains by weight or volume?

 

[smokepolehall]

I am using 75 gr of T7-2f. Not a heavy load at all. Its by volume.

 

[Ninering62]

Ok always trying to learn. I shot a big Doe for our area 150-160 lb on the hoof. I used a 230 gr XTP, shot was 104 yds ranged. Pass through but 2 nd deer with both shoulders blood shot. Typical load 75 gr T7 2 f, so it was not hot. Would a 250 gr bullet being a bit heavier do less on the blood shot n still do a pass through? There was small flecks of lead on the off side, not what i was wanting to see. I have some Barnes .451 250 gr n Fury 250's.

What do you mean by " Bloodshot"? I'm not familiar with that term. ( other than how my eyes look most of the time )TY

 

[smokepolehall]

Where the bullet impacts the body n exits the body. Its bloody gelled mess on both sides n it takes both of my hands side by side to just cover that area. The hole is 3-4 times the size of bullet. I am thinking a heavier bullet or a bullet that is not so explosive. I may have to lower the load but then i lose yardage. I try to keep my inline good to 125 yards.

 

[lonewolf]

I switched to a 300gr it didn't do quite as bad as like a 240 xtp , but I didn't shoot a full grow ridge runner either, lol there all going do there job, granted some messier than others. Remember salt water soak is your friend on blood shot.

 

[jd24.5.48]

I quit shooting deer in the shoulders after I picked up one from my butcher and I had a note that said both shoulders Destroyed! 240grn hornady xtp 80grn blackhorn. I now try to shoot em behind the shoulder!

 

[Ninering62]

Where the bullet impacts the body n exits the body. Its bloody gelled mess on both sides n it takes both of my hands side by side to just cover that area. The hole is 3-4 times the size of bullet. I am thinking a heavier bullet or a bullet that is not so explosive. I may have to lower the load but then i lose yardage. I try to keep my inline good to 125 yards.

Thanks

 

[Ninering62]

I quit shooting deer in the shoulders after I picked up one from my butcher and I had a note that said both shoulders Destroyed! 240grn hornady xtp 80grn blackhorn. I now try to shoot em behind the shoulder!

I'll keep sayin it " neck, head, or high shoulder " is the only way to go. Never worry about a " blood trail " OR - meat loss again.

 

[smokepolehall]

Maybe my brain short circuits, i am ingrained to drop them bang/flop. On my other place n this place is very small acreage less than 6 acres. Hey i am only losing 3-5 lbs of meat, but i am not losing the tick toter. Heck i am getting older with too many Senior moments !

 

[Muley Hunter]

Any of you try the Hornady Bore-Driver bullets? I'm thinking of using them on next years cow elk hunt.

 

[I beagle]

I just used the bore driver last night to kill a small buck. Short range, but it killed very good! Darin

 

[I beagle]

Forgot to mention, 110 grain blackthorn/v. out of a cva optima.

 

[jd24.5.48]

I'll keep sayin it " neck, head, or high shoulder " is the only way to go. Never worry about a " blood trail " OR - meat loss again.

High shoulder and neck shots, destroys a lot of burger meat! Been there and done that!

 

[Ninering62]

High shoulder and neck shots, destroys a lot of burger meat! Been there and done that!

I can't agree with you my friend on the neck shots " ruining " anything. I always use the necks for the pressure cooker to make BBQ or cut the meat off & it gets used in the burger. There really isn't that much meat on the necks. So putting a round thru the neck - at any place along the bones is no big deal, not nearly enough meat loss to worry about. Now, the high shoulder shot, with - some bullets, you'll get a large wound channel, with other bullets or slower velocities, you won't. However, by simply soaking the shoulders & backstraps in a cooler full of ice & some salt, it draws whatever blood build up right out. So the only actual meat loss is the actual wound channel. But the fact that both shots 100% of the time in my experience, is a bang/flop DRT never knew what hit them. Thats a huge plus to me. I certainly do respect your perspective & input though I disagree. Thanks for your post.

 

[jd24.5.48]

I can't agree with you my friend on the neck shots " ruining " anything. I always use the necks for the pressure cooker to make BBQ or cut the meat off & it gets used in the burger. There really isn't that much meat on the necks. So putting a round thru the neck - at any place along the bones is no big deal, not nearly enough meat loss to worry about. Now, the high shoulder shot, with - some bullets, you'll get a large wound channel, with other bullets or slower velocities, you won't. However, by simply soaking the shoulders & backstraps in a cooler full of ice & some salt, it draws whatever blood build up right out. So the only actual meat loss is the actual wound channel. But the fact that both shots 100% of the time in my experience, is a bang/flop DRT never knew what hit them. Thats a huge plus to me. I certainly do respect your perspective & input though I disagree. Thanks for your post.

I don't do my own butchering anymore because of space and time constraint. I won't argue about the shoulder shot because I know that it works! It was just ruining my burger meat! I haven't any deer make it more than 40yds with the behind the shoulder shot! The last 4 that I've killed, were 3 DRT and 1 made it 40yds with a great blood trail!

 

[Ninering62]

I don't do my own butchering anymore because of space and time constraint. I won't argue about the shoulder shot because I know that it works! It was just ruining my burger meat! I haven't any deer make it more than 40yds with the behind the shoulder shot! The last 4 that I've killed, were 3 DRT and 1 made it 40yds with a great blood trail!

Nice. I too love my deer burger. I do all of my own butchering & processing & packaging. Always have except for when I've had sausage or snack sticks made. I put a good 80lbs of 80/10/10 deer/fresh beef suet/bacon ends & 20-40lbs of reg burger mix with just deer & beef suet 80/20. I put 30-40lbs of deer BBQ in the freezer too. Last yr or the yr before, I got into making @Mnt monkey moms deer meat hash so I put away plenty of front shoulder, necks & rib meat & scraps from butchering to make that on the reg. I enjoy it for brunch with a few sunnyside-up farm fresh eggs on top a lil S&P & some of my fav Boarshead HotSauce. Now thats good eatin right there.
I'm having deer/bacon burger in Mac&Cheese today for lunch. Just got done with a 4lb deer/bacon burger meatloaf too. I rarely make backstraps or roasts anymore.

 

[Muley Hunter]

I just used the bore driver last night to kill a small buck. Short range, but it killed very good! Darin

Thank you.

I'm sure i'll end up hunting for a muley too. With my bad back it may be just a muley.

 

[jd24.5.48]

Nice. I too love my deer burger. I do all of my own butchering & processing & packaging. Always have except for when I've had sausage or snack sticks made. I put a good 80lbs of 80/10/10 deer/fresh beef suet/bacon ends & 20-40lbs of reg burger mix with just deer & beef suet 80/20. I put 30-40lbs of deer BBQ in the freezer too. Last yr or the yr before, I got into making @Mnt monkey moms deer meat hash so I put away plenty of front shoulder, necks & rib meat & scraps from butchering to make that on the reg. I enjoy it for brunch with a few sunnyside-up farm fresh eggs on top a lil S&P & some of my fav Boarshead HotSauce. Now thats good eatin right there.
I'm having deer/bacon burger in Mac&Cheese today for lunch. Just got done with a 4lb deer/bacon burger meatloaf too. I rarely make backstraps or roasts anymore.

I don't mind a little beef suet but I prefer 100% venison burger myself. I love venison chili and burgers! Your 80/10/10 sounds good though!