muzzlestuffer said:
Idaholewis said:
I pulled 1 apart in a TC Scout 1 time, I got REALLY lucky and was able to retrieve it without to much problem, that was the LAST time i used a “Press Fitted” Bore Brush, It's a bad feeling when you pull a brush apart in a Sidelock/Flintlock Bore! If by chance that ever happens, use a piece of copper tubing that will just fit down the bore, slide the tubing down and push when you get to the brush, the Tubing will go over the Bristles (brush will slide in the tubing), allowing you to extract it. Better to avoid it from happening in the first place by using a good Loop Through bore brush :yeah:
Caines outdoors sells them, I’m sure plenty of other places, Caines is the first that comes to mind. The ones i get locally are CVA packaged 50/54
Thanks for the heads up. The reason I started this thread was I was cleaning a older rifle and was shocked at how much fouling was in the barrel and how difficult it can be to remove even when using a brush so the moral of this story is for me I'm going to brush out the barrel every time to get the fouling out because once it gets in those deep grooves it's real hard to get it out !
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The use of a Bore Brush in a Muzzleloader is controversial, you will get MANY traditionalist, old timers, etc. that swear they are unnecessary? I for 1 believe in the use of a Good Bore Brush, And i advise them to others. The way i see it, they are not hurting anything, Why not use one a few passes to help break The fouling in the Grooves? A good bore brush in my cleaning routine just makes good sense to me. Anyone that knows me, and my Guns can attest that my Bores are Pristine, and to keep them that way i use a Good loop through Bore Brush, Barrel in a bucket of Luke warm Tap water so it draws up the bore, and is pushed back out through the Nipple hole (Fairly rapidly a few times to really flush the Patented Breech/Powder Chamber, and Nipple hole) I use a Little Dawn dish soap, and about 6-8 passes back n forth, Then back to my patches.
For a new to me rifle, or just plain filthy dirty i use a little handheld Steam Cleaner through the Nipple hole. WARNING! This can effect your cold bore shot BADLY! Especially With slip fit Paper Patched bullets, your First shot (Cold Clean Bore) will literally go Nuts! But after that 1st shot they will all go back where they are suppose to be. Tight fitting Grease Groove Bullets are FAR FAR less effected by this, In all of my testing they will be on Target, Paper Patched bullets on the other hand can miss by several feet, and this was just 50 Yards. I set up a 3X3 foot Square piece of Cardboard, i could NOT catch the Cold clean bore shot after a steam cleaning, and Paper Patched bullets
Steam Cleaner
This came from a rifle that i was POSITIVE was thoroughly clean, as you can clearly see the Steam cleaner found a BUNCH of Nasty! This came from the Patented Breech/Powder Chamber/Snail.
This is the target I totally missed with the Cold clean Bore after a Deep Steam Cleaning, Again this was only 50 Yards, and using my PP bullets, I tried this several days in a Row, Not 1 time was i able to catch the Cold Clean bore shot using my Slip Fit Paper Patched bullets, To say it has a DRASTIC effect on the Cold clean bore shot with Slip Fit PP Bullets would be a HUGE understatement!
The press fitted JUNK brushes are an accident waiting to happen
