I used Goex 2 f powder for the first time this past weekend and have to say I was very impressed with it. The reason I have not tried it before was I couldn't find it close to where I live and everything I heard it was so dirty. And before anyone jumps in here and says you can order on internet I know that but I don't have money for that if someone can afford that great I can't. I used it in 5 different rifles 50,54,58 cleaning to me was no different than 777 I always use warm water and dish soap worked great ldaholewis was a great help with all this just feels great to be able to drive 35 minutes to buy it really looking forward to finding loads for my rifles in all the calibers I have.