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So these are made for compressed air guns... i have tested them in my traditions buckhunter pro pistol. They load with decent resistance and seem to group acceptably. Kind of a specialty ammo for when ever the deer start wearing soft armor... the size and profile is similar to hornady PA Conical 50 ammo. If anyone wants to shoot some through a chrono with some 777 that would be super helpful. At around 65gr im guessing they go pretty fast even with light charge... and they seem super stable in flight so far.
 

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