Lead from old batteries?

[mnoland30]

When I was using 150 gr. 777 loads and 400 gr Precison Rifle pure lead bullets, I had trouble with over expansion (over 1 inch) and under penetration on elk. The old bison hunter Frank Mayer used 1:16 tin:lead (BHN about 12) for bison out to 300 yards and more shooting a .45 caliber with 120 gr. black powder and 550 gr. bullet.

 

[MSalyards]

16-1 mix is mostly used for Long range - 1000 yards plus BPCR target shooting to keep the nose slump in check. Most hunting bullets are 30-1 for BPCR and 40-1 for muzzle loader.

 

[GM54-120]

When I was using 150 gr. 777 loads and 400 gr Precison Rifle pure lead bullets, I had trouble with over expansion (over 1 inch) and under penetration on elk

Did you expect something else to happen with soft lead and a massive powder charge?

 

[jeremiahjohnson247]

Can you use 209 buck horn powder with a cast lead bullet (conical) or do you need to use BP? Thanks.

 

[HC]

Depends on which rifle?

 

[eekjellander]

Can you use 209 buck horn powder with a cast lead bullet (conical) or do you need to use BP? Thanks.

Yes even sidelocks with a mag spark \209 conversion but BP is nicer

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I use blackhorn209 powder and lead conicals. In an Accura and 2 Knight disc extremes. Gotta keep the powder below 80grV. Thats where I started to see signs of leading.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Yes even sidelocks with a mag spark \209 conversion but BP is nicer

I have shot that setup a few times. The mag spark just gets beatup and hard to open after a few shots. I was only shooting 50-60grV and lead conicals

 

[eekjellander]

Try spitting in the cap /and the primer as I shoot all day 60-70 shots shooting long every week and I do not have a problem !I used to have that problem (ABOUT 4 yrs ago) ,now no more Try it it works/Ed

 

[eekjellander]

I use blackhorn209 powder and lead conicals. In an Accura and 2 Knight disc extremes. Gotta keep the powder below 80grV. Thats where I started to see signs of leading.

A wad /card under the base solves that (gas cutting) or you have a poor fitting conical/Ed

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I always use a wad or cut off sabot base under these and sized them pretty well imho. I believe the leading was from velocity, not gas cutting or size issue.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Try spitting in the cap /and the primer as I shoot all day 60-70 shots shooting long every week and I do not have a problem !I used to have that problem (ABOUT 4 yrs ago) ,now no more Try it it works/Ed

I really liked shooting that way, otherwise. I will give that a try.

 

[jeremiahjohnson247]

Depends on which rifle?

 

[jeremiahjohnson247]

Tradition Vortex .50 cal w/1-28 twist.

 

[jeremiahjohnson247]

I use blackhorn209 powder and lead conicals. In an Accura and 2 Knight disc extremes. Gotta keep the powder below 80grV. Thats where I started to see signs of leading.

Thanks.

 

[GM54-120]

That has been about the max for me also but in 45cals. After 80grV of Bh209 you are simply pushing soft lead too fast across the rifling. Depending on the lube somewhere after 1400-1500fps leading will get much much worse. No real reason to go much faster than 1400fps anyway shooting soft lead. It performs just fine in the 1200-1300fps range.

 

[mnoland30]

Did you expect something else to happen with soft lead and a massive powder charge?

I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know about this forum back then. I have since lowered my powder charges considerably, but also haven't shot pure lead with them.