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Another that comes to mind, one that my brother owns and I have shot and was impressed with was the Traditions Vortek Strykerfire VAPR. Its available in both 45 cal (my personal choice) and 50 cal. Many on this forum would warn you away from Traditions citing poor customer service issues and I can neither confirm or deny any of these claims. No shortage of that these days apparently. I would not not buy a rifle based on my fear of it breaking and then not being able to get proper warranty work from the manufacturer. My primary concern is how well does it shoot and I can confirm my brother's Strykerfire in 50 cal shooting 2 Triple 7 pellets and a Hornady Bore Driver FTX shoots sub MOA at 100 yards. What more can you ask for?Moving on, any suggestion for a quality inline 50 cal sabot capable that will shoots both pellets and bh?