so here is the problem, as i see it
i have an omega z5 got it about xmas time this last year, probably fired 200 round through it.
i use harvestor crushribs, and 250gr xtp's
along with triple 7 FFg equivalent, along with cci 209 and federal 209a primers
when i first got it it shot very well, but i wanted a scope to see the target POI and save having to walk back and forth
so i bought a t/c 3-9x40 kit, one of the blister pack jobs, and all was good out to about 50yds i could see where the bullets landed and accuracy was very good at around 1" groups or less, then out to 100yds and still grouping excellent but the optics weren't good enough to see the point of impact.
so i bought a bushnell banner dusk to dawn, 6-18x50 scope and mounted it, and all was very good, good accuracy, nice tight groups.
then i had problems with the scope mount shim, and replaced it and went back to the range to work on getting it back in plumb.
had nothing but trouble since, so i got rid of the hokie t/c mounting system and got one of the one piece jobs off the shelf at cabela's, and things improved a bit, not much however my groups were minimum 6 to 8 inches at 50 yds.
i thought it was the scope or the mount, so i went back to the t/c scope and things improved a bit, down to maybe 5 inch groups.
i then went with a weaver rail and weaver ring, high mount to clear the 50mm bell and remounted the big scope.
then things really improved to around 2-3inch groups, but it has to be better.
i removed the scope, the rail system and reinstalled the oem open sights, truglow or whatever they are called.
back to the range and went through a bunch more rounds, got it on paper at 15 yds, then went out to 45yds.
the best i can attain in 3 shot groups is maybe 2" groups if i am really lucky and thoroughly clean the barrel between rounds, not a simple swabbing but a right down i can eat of off it cleaning.
i have tried altering the powder charge, tried different projectiles, nothing makes it better and many things make it worse.
the breech plug is spotless, the flame channel is cleaned out, the tiny little passage i clean with a torch tip cleaner and it has not enlarged to the next size, it is still just as tight as it was when new.
i have really been faithful and very picky about cleaning the barrel after every return form shooting, the barrel looks like a mirror inside, no signs of any crud, ring, spots or anything but just like new barrel.
i am shooting with the same sandbags as i use for my cva wolf, same range, same targets, same weather, same position, same way me holding my lips just right, everything...
the wolf will connect all three rounds in under 3/4" groups all day long! even with recycled sabots it will do under 1" groups!
so what gives, is there something wrong with the omega or do i just have an exceptionally good wolf?
i can stand and fire unsupported with the wolf and keep under 1.5" groups all day long.
so what the hell gives guys?
i remember someone here cutting the end of his barrel off an inch to remove the bullet starter area, was that to correct this sort of problem?
if this is the case i am ready to do surgery!
or should i send it back to t/c and see if they can sort it out?
i am looking for answers guys and i am getting really frustrated.
thanks
bob g
i have an omega z5 got it about xmas time this last year, probably fired 200 round through it.
i use harvestor crushribs, and 250gr xtp's
along with triple 7 FFg equivalent, along with cci 209 and federal 209a primers
when i first got it it shot very well, but i wanted a scope to see the target POI and save having to walk back and forth
so i bought a t/c 3-9x40 kit, one of the blister pack jobs, and all was good out to about 50yds i could see where the bullets landed and accuracy was very good at around 1" groups or less, then out to 100yds and still grouping excellent but the optics weren't good enough to see the point of impact.
so i bought a bushnell banner dusk to dawn, 6-18x50 scope and mounted it, and all was very good, good accuracy, nice tight groups.
then i had problems with the scope mount shim, and replaced it and went back to the range to work on getting it back in plumb.
had nothing but trouble since, so i got rid of the hokie t/c mounting system and got one of the one piece jobs off the shelf at cabela's, and things improved a bit, not much however my groups were minimum 6 to 8 inches at 50 yds.
i thought it was the scope or the mount, so i went back to the t/c scope and things improved a bit, down to maybe 5 inch groups.
i then went with a weaver rail and weaver ring, high mount to clear the 50mm bell and remounted the big scope.
then things really improved to around 2-3inch groups, but it has to be better.
i removed the scope, the rail system and reinstalled the oem open sights, truglow or whatever they are called.
back to the range and went through a bunch more rounds, got it on paper at 15 yds, then went out to 45yds.
the best i can attain in 3 shot groups is maybe 2" groups if i am really lucky and thoroughly clean the barrel between rounds, not a simple swabbing but a right down i can eat of off it cleaning.
i have tried altering the powder charge, tried different projectiles, nothing makes it better and many things make it worse.
the breech plug is spotless, the flame channel is cleaned out, the tiny little passage i clean with a torch tip cleaner and it has not enlarged to the next size, it is still just as tight as it was when new.
i have really been faithful and very picky about cleaning the barrel after every return form shooting, the barrel looks like a mirror inside, no signs of any crud, ring, spots or anything but just like new barrel.
i am shooting with the same sandbags as i use for my cva wolf, same range, same targets, same weather, same position, same way me holding my lips just right, everything...
the wolf will connect all three rounds in under 3/4" groups all day long! even with recycled sabots it will do under 1" groups!
so what gives, is there something wrong with the omega or do i just have an exceptionally good wolf?
i can stand and fire unsupported with the wolf and keep under 1.5" groups all day long.
so what the hell gives guys?
i remember someone here cutting the end of his barrel off an inch to remove the bullet starter area, was that to correct this sort of problem?
if this is the case i am ready to do surgery!
or should i send it back to t/c and see if they can sort it out?
i am looking for answers guys and i am getting really frustrated.
thanks
bob g