They must have some big corn fed bucks shooting these muzzleloaders with 150 grns loose powder and 290 and 300 grn bullets. That must kick like 2 turkey guns. Man I want to enjoy my shooting. I'm liking my 75 to 80 grn charges with 200 grn bullets I've been playing with, but after about 8 shots I'm starting to notice recoil. I couldn't imagine shooting 130 grns loose behind a 300 grn elephant slug. Man if I were shooting that I'd shoot a buck in the shoulder and it would anchor him right there, no tracking ever. That load kills on both ends. Real men shoot 130 grns loose and 290/300 grn bullets, smart men shoot 76 grns loose and 200 grn bullets. I would like to try your load but I'm :d'oh!: (scared) I may end up with 23 unused bullets after I fire the first one.