Primers

[MrTom]

Usually the term price gouging is restricted to essentials, of which primers are not.

I was just going to comment on how many attorney generals would laugh at such a request to investigate gouging when primers or powder was the product.

 

[GM54-120]

Copper is fast approaching a all time high and reserves are low. It has only been higher once back in 2010. Lead, zinc and iron pricing are all high atm.

 

[GM54-120]

An example is lil gun powder that I bought recently. $40 for 1 lb for something that usually goes for what 30?

Gas was up over 70 cents from the last time i filled my huge tank. Roughly 25% more also.....I was clearly gouged at the pump.

 

[BugIn45]

MSRP is not a fair price offered by a manufacturer.
It is the minimum price offered for the manufacturer to stay in business.

Would you also tell him what his profit margin will be?

 

[ENCORE50A]

MSRP is an acronym that stands for manufacturer's suggested retail price. Manufacturers (i.e. Audi) use MSRP as a base price to give retailers their estimated value of a product. This is not the usually the actual price of an item, but rather what the manufacturer suggests as the maximum price that the item could be expected to sell for.
Believe me, if you pay MSRP you're being taken.

 

[GM54-120]

MSRP is an acronym that stands for manufacturer's suggested retail price.

I remember not all that long ago when the "new Camaro" was selling for quite a bit more than MSRP at the dealers. The only reason behind the higher price was because the dealers were able to get what they wanted for them. IIRC it was the Transformers movie/s that increased demand for them and they sold like hot cakes even at "inflated pricing"

 

[JBushnell]

I just sent some musket primers at my cost (actually, at loss with shipping) to a fellow modernmuzzleloader. I am fortunate enough to be in the position of not-needing to cash in on the current situation. For those that can, I'd advise the same...

 

[snapbang]

Would you also tell him what his profit margin will be?

Actually some business is done this way. The manufacturer has a price list. The dealers are given a discount from that list. Bigger dealers get bigger discounts. If a dealer is caught selling at a lower price its discount is adjusted by the same percent as the discount it was selling at. The manufacturer says if you can do business at a reduced margin then we will take that margin from you in the form of the reduced discount. Now the dealer is forced to sell at the list price. Likewise if a dealer sells at a higher price the manufacturer will quickly raise prices on the price list because it is proven the product is worth more than what was previously listed. Yes they do control margin.

 

[flounder]

Some of these people getting huge bucks for shooting supplies others are short of might not meet some people's definition of price gougers. They are however definitely greedy unscrupulous opportunists. The type i would never have a business or personal relationship with.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Actually some business is done this way. The manufacturer has a price list. The dealers are given a discount from that list. Bigger dealers get bigger discounts. If a dealer is caught selling at a lower price its discount is adjusted by the same percent as the discount it was selling at. The manufacturer says if you can do business at a reduced margin then we will take that margin from you in the form of the reduced discount. Now the dealer is forced to sell at the list price. Likewise if a dealer sells at a higher price the manufacturer will quickly raise prices on the price list because it is proven the product is worth more than what was previously listed. Yes they do control margin.

even when laid out in plain English people will argue with you and thinks the same know what they're talking about. including the Apple store orange comparisons of MSRP on vehicles in compared to something clearly marked 99 cents at your local Walmart.

It's as simple as this if the manufacturer prints 99 cents on the package that's what they intend for their product to be sold to the consumer. This is because of a negotiated discounted rate between the manufacturer and the supplier.
It really can't get any clearer yet people will argue with you brother.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Here's one that you might see often imagine Arizona iced tea there was a time that they were all marked 99 cents at the top of the can so when you walk down the counter you expected to pay $0.99. now some convenience stores out in the middle of nowhere or for whatever reason would charge you more than that 99 cents that means that they were charging more than MSRP. That wasn't a big markup but say 10 cents but it sure didn't make you feel good about buying it from that guy because you paid more than what was saying on the bottle.

Enter inflation yada yada yada and you started seeing those labels on the Arizona cans jump from 99 cents and some stores to a 1.09. well the consumers ended up paying $0.09 more and some of that went straight to the manufacturer because they increase their price on their product and a portion of that went to the vendor.

The bottle's labeled a dollar nine were sold to that vendor at a higher price. The MSRP is a general guideline used so that consumers aren't screwed into paying higher prices. Now in certain things they've been more like a baseline. In the world of automotive high-dollar Wheeling and dealing boy doesn't it make you feel better to pay less than what that sticker MSRP says?

The Auto industry has a bastardized version of MSRP. It's simply not the same you can't go into a liquor store that sells a can of Arizona soda Mark 99 cents and try to talk them down to $0.85 unless your Chris Rock in I'm going to get you sucker.

 

[Glambert]

I see midwayusa took the page of rws 1075’s that were scheduled to be back in stock 3/27 down and listed them as discontinued.

 

[BugIn45]

The price controls you mention from distributor and price controls for name brands are for minimums. Not maximum price.

 

[Half-Cocked]

The price controls you mention from distributor and price controls for name brands are for minimums. Not maximum price.

You are confusing msrp with map. Here's an article.

MSRP = benchmark

Map = Minimum pricing legally allowed

https://www.pricespider.com/msrp-vs-map-policy-whats-the-difference/

 

[BugIn45]

You have beat me down with economic acronyms.
Controlling the price of non essential goods smacks of economic socialism. Enjoy your world.

 

[fishhawk2700]

You have beat me down with economic acronyms.
Controlling the price of non essential goods smacks of economic socialism. Enjoy your world.

This system of retailing has been around for years. It used to be called "Fair Trade" back in The day. Browning Firearms was known for this a while back. No matter where you went the price was the same. If a retailer got caught selling for under the MAP, or "Fair Trade" price they were no longer a retailer. Ten Point Crossbows are another example. When I bought mine, the dealer could not go below the MAP. To get around this, the dealer added a bunch of accessories for free, thus lowering the price of the bow.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Reminded me of michigan. Here we often see state minimum pricing at liquor stores. Something about low end liquor stores and gambling that turns my stomach. The words degenerate come to mind.

 

[MrTom]

I was reading another site and someone mentioned there that www.reloadunlimited.com has plenty of the small rifle and larger rifle as well as shotshell primers available. I checked the site but other than check pricing, which seems to be in line with the pre-covid pricing, I didn't check for inventory on hand. Powder, bullets, all sorts of goodies there. I'd ever heard of the site so just passing it along.

 

[D55]

They are a bit pricey.

 

[ENCORE50A]

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