I made it to the range last Saturday, to shoot the new to me TC Hawkens and a H&A underhammer, both in .50 caliber. The TC was dead on at 25 and 50 left to right, but with the rear sight cranked all the way down, still shot about 11/2 inches high at 25, and about 2.5 inches high at 50, but did wad the group together. The H&A did not have sights, but weaver scoope bases, so I put on a Nikon 2x7 scope I had laying around. I was shooting at some orange stickers, about the size of a penny, and it hit about a bullet hole to the right. I clicked it over, and shot 3 more in the top half of the sticker, a ragged hole at 25 yds with the scope on 5x. I moved to 50yds and shot 3 that took the dot out, with a cloverleaf that had all three shots overlapped a little. My friend who was there cussed and stomped,, stated he could never be that lucky to have 2 ML's shoot that close to zero right out of the gate. I was using 50 grains ofo3fffg, with a 490PRB and 018 thick pillow ticking patches. Just thought I would share with you folks!