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What scales do people use? Analog digital what works and is accurate
I've heard it mentioned " bathroom scale "I'm not certain that such a thing exists?
For me, it's more of a "feel " as I seat my ball or bullets on the powder.
One should strive to develop a loading routine that works for them and load the same way every shot.
Yes sir, they've existed for decades. As a retired Ergonomist, I've measured 10's of thousands of forces.I'm not certain that such a thing exists?
For me, it's more of a "feel " as I seat my ball or bullets on the powder.
One should strive to develop a loading routine that works for them and load the same way every shot.
Not trying to start any arguments this morning but I can't understand what value knowing the answer would be out in the deer woods if you had to reload for a second or third shot.
I mean, I'm not going to bring any scales or such in my kit.
I could see it being kinda usefu/helpful for determining bullet fit, but slugging the bore is probably easier and cheaper.Not trying to start any arguments this morning but I can't understand what value knowing the answer would be out in the deer woods if you had to reload for a second or third shot.
I mean, I'm not going to bring any scales or such in my kit.
You are correct........ for the hunter it is completely unnecessary.Not trying to start any arguments this morning but I can't understand what value knowing the answer would be out in the deer woods if you had to reload for a second or third shot.
I mean, I'm not going to bring any scales or such in my kit.
Actually its extremely easy and more accurate using a gage. Also depending on the rifle's bore, its easier to identify inconsistencies.I could see it being kinda usefu/helpful for determining bullet fit, but slugging the bore is probably easier and cheaper.
Could also see a use for determining the effect of various powders or lubes as it relates to loading pressure. Middle school science fair anyone?
The use of this gauge intrigues me. I know you've mentioned it several times in other threads. What do you do to assure yourself that your loading force and seating force is as consistent as possible when you're shooting long range? Do you use your force gauge every time you load? What variability do you see in pounds of force? Or, how relevant is it? Without the gauge, how do you maintain consistency of loading force? Do you develop a "feel" for consistency through repetition? You use the gauge to assist in determining the bullet diameter for loading force, that I clearly understand. How about seating force? that seems like it's very difficult to be consistent on, but perhaps more important.What I can tell you for certain is, one can not determine that he/she is using the same force each time, rather it be loading force or seating force. You can't get close. Just like shooters that want to hold on to their forearm shooting from a bench. You'll never get the same holding force. You think you can, but I can assure you, you won't.
To date I have not used the gage for seating the bullets at Atterbury, but that may certainly change this year. The loading forces will remain the same from the sized bullets, which I'll size to load harder from now on, and I also size them to fit after 5 passes through the die. In a clean barrel, I had been sizing to 9# loading force but will increase that to 20#. Loading force must be checked SLOWLY, as any acceleration will give false readings.The use of this gauge intrigues me. I know you've mentioned it several times in other threads. What do you do to assure yourself that your loading force and seating force is as consistent as possible when you're shooting long range? Do you use your force gauge every time you load? What variability do you see in pounds of force? Or, how relevant is it? Without the gauge, how do you maintain consistency of loading force? Do you develop a "feel" for consistency through repetition? You use the gauge to assist in determining the bullet diameter for loading force, that I clearly understand. How about seating force? that seems like it's very difficult to be consistent on, but perhaps more important.
The only drawback is the scales must be painted blaze orange.Not trying to start any arguments this morning but I can't understand what value knowing the answer would be out in the deer woods if you had to reload for a second or third shot.
I mean, I'm not going to bring any scales or such in my kit.
For starters the question wasn't hunting related. Deer season is months away yetNot trying to start any arguments this morning but I can't understand what value knowing the answer would be out in the deer woods if you had to reload for a second or third shot.
I mean, I'm not going to bring any scales or such in my kit.
Good questions indeedThe use of this gauge intrigues me. I know you've mentioned it several times in other threads. What do you do to assure yourself that your loading force and seating force is as consistent as possible when you're shooting long range? Do you use your force gauge every time you load? What variability do you see in pounds of force? Or, how relevant is it? Without the gauge, how do you maintain consistency of loading force? Do you develop a "feel" for consistency through repetition? You use the gauge to assist in determining the bullet diameter for loading force, that I clearly understand. How about seating force? that seems like it's very difficult to be consistent on, but perhaps more important.
Yes, some can & do use a bathroom scale to get downforce in lbs, but I learned that you can only do that with the old style scales bc the digital bathroom scales will only register the most weight applied, but not anything on the way there.I've heard it mentioned " bathroom scale "
Thank-you for the reply sirYes sir, they've existed for decades. As a retired Ergonomist, I've measured 10's of thousands of forces.
https://www.wagnerinstruments.com/products/Force-Gages/All-Force-Gages
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I found a dial force gauge on you guessed it scamazonYes, some can & do use a bathroom scale to get downforce in lbs, but I learned that you can only do that with the old style scales bc the digital bathroom scales will only register the most weight applied, but not anything on the way there.
Yes sir at the moment I'm at the range almost daily so I am interested in eliminating the human factor and developing good load practices.I'm sort of in Jim's camp here. I understand the need for near absolute consistency when you're sending high tech bullets downrange 1000 yards, but in the deer woods such equipment would be a royal pain.
In reading your postings Ga.smokey I assume you're after the best of the best off the bench and the loading pressure might favor you. For me at the deer stand I generally load the gun at home before heading out and pay as much attention to detail as possible to keep what's down the pipe uniform, but loading pressure hasn't been too high up the list of have-to's. I do double check the tamp on the charge when I get settled in the stand though.
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