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Every bullet shown here was caught using the same system. The distance between the rifle, and the horse is 25 yard. In each case the powder charge was 50 grain Blackhorn. The horse carries a phone book, water bottles, plywood, and carpet. The bullet is intended to shoot through the carpet, and plywood before hitting the bottles. The plan is the bottles will 'catch' the bullet. The phone book is insurance.









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The 350 grain Lead Tipped Muzzleloader Bullet.






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The 300 grain SST.






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The 285 grain Ball Point bullet.






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The 260 grain PT Gold.










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The 250 grain TEZ.








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The 250 grain Monoflex.








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The 250g SST.
 
#1. Hornady MonoFlex ML all day every day, and twice on Sunday.

https://youtu.be/e31INBpb_vE

#2. Hornady 300gr SST
#3. 285gr Ball Point
#4. 350 gr Federal B.O.R. Lock MZ
#5. Hornady 250gr SST
#6. Harverster 260 gr PT Gold
#7. Barnes 250 gr TEZ
 
I use the 300sst and it just hammer those bucks in michigan in zone 3 !
 
Think I'll stick with my SST's without a worry in the world.
 
Ron, I’ll revise your 50grV data.
I put this together from your test.
Everyone can agree within 150yds or so it really doesn’t matter what one shoots - even a roundball.
These failures don’t depict the actual velocity in which they STOP expanding. Based on some, it may be a few hundred fps above your test.
 

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Even the winners seem to have varying degrees..
 

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ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ?
With Ron’s 50grV test - A 65gr Thor will not have the same velocity as a 350gr conical.
 
52Bore said:
ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ?
With Ron’s 50grV test - A 65gr Thor will not have the same velocity as a 350gr conical.

Ok, but the velocity when the majority of bullets are being tested appears to average 1,200fps. Maybe that should be noted in your photos, that way people will understand the velocity and be able to compare it to their actual hunting charges.
 
ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ?

In the thread posted last Wednesday regarding the 250g TEZ, the bullet speed at 25 yard was a measured 1223 fps. This makes the calculated MV 1269 fps. One might write the approximate muzzle velocity is 1269 fps.



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ronlaughlin said:
ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ?

In the thread posted last Wednesday regarding the 250g TEZ, the bullet speed at 25 yard was a measured 1223 fps. This makes the calculated MV 1269 fps. One might write the approximate muzzle velocity is 1269 fps.



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Kind of confusing at times........ A test of the bullet using 50grs volume of BH in 2015, you indicated:

"Never clocked the Barnes. The Lehigh was clocked at 1197 fps right there at the jugs, 25 yard from the muzzle. The Barnes would be a tad less it seems."

Either way, the Barnes bullets are being tested at or near the minimum velocity Barnes indicates they need to expand properly.
 
ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ? ....... Kind of confusing at times........
Things would be less confusing if you would quit posting incorrect information. :mrgreen: Speeds i post are measured at the horse i.e. 25 yard.
 
ronlaughlin said:
ENCORE50A said:
Approximate muzzle velocity of 1,200fps ? ....... Kind of confusing at times........
Things would be less confusing if you would quit posting incorrect information. :mrgreen: Speeds i post are measured at the horse i.e. 25 yard.

They might be less confusing if one post didn't state one velocity and the next post a different velocity with the same bullet and charge. :mrgreen:

Hey, I appreciate your dedication and hard work you do with your method of testing. You are consistent with the materials you use with every bullet you attempt to test. However, I also have the opinion, like and as others have previously mentioned, even some that lurk in the shadows, that some tests are flawed.

I'm not here or making posts or statements because I want to be an enemy, but rather that I have concerns that some tests are flawed. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But if I have concerns that something isn't totally right, I'm going to question it. If that makes me the bad guy, then so be it.

Its one thing for those who use ballistics calculators all the time, another for those who think they know how, but I have more concern for those who don't understand it at all. Those hunters/shooters can be easily swayed by testing that is performed like no bullet manufacturer, or actual bullet testers perform. Some of the regulars may know or understand that you're shooting a much reduced charge to simulate distance, and what that distance might be, but at the same time, there could be a couple dozen non-members reading and not understanding. They should have all the information available to them, that always indicates the muzzle velocity of the much reduced hunting charge, where they can compare it to their own or the most common hunting charge velocities.

I just have differing opinions and don't always flow with the status quo. A couple worship these tests as a god, when others feel, or recognize, there are flaws.
 
as usual You seem to be the only one and insist that you are right. Just let it go or do your own test instead of trying to tell everybody how they should do
 
ENCORE50A said:
..........I have concerns that some tests are flawed..........
If some tests are flawed, it follows that every test is flawed. You see, an effort was made to do every shooting the exact same way, thus every test is flawed. Every test is flawed.......
 
45cal said:
as usual You seem to be the only one and insist that you are right. Just let it go or do your own test instead of trying to tell everybody how they should do

Bob, evidently you only pay attention to the posts I make? We just got through talking about one of the Barnes bullets and here's exactly the statement that BuckDoeHunter made:

"Ron's tests are good but this one is flawed, I have real world tests on game with the TEZ and it performed very well."

Maybe if you didn't have such hatred for me, you'd read the other's posts.
 

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