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How many different models of omegas were made. I have an original the year they came out. I know they made a dream season & at least one more. What are the differences?
 
Bigterp said:
How many different models of omegas were made. I have an original the year they came out. I know they made a dream season & at least one more. What are the differences?
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GREAT question. I've had 2 Omegas in .50, 1 when they came out & another a few yrs later. Not until a cpl yrs ago did I learn that there was a Z5 model. Just heard of the dream season & X7 models. I was shocked to learn TC made a .45 Omega. Are the differences between the models just stock type & black or SS barrels & plain or fluted barrels?
 
dbowling said:
Had 2 grey laminated stainless Omegas a .50 and a .45, have a cinnamon(or whatever its called looks just like Rons) stocked X7 now.
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Both my .50 Omegas were Lam/SS models, if I'd had head back then that there was a .45 model I would have hunted it down like Bigfoot. I think that stock color is Nutmeg, but I'm not 100% on it.
 
So, whats the Z7 & Dream Season have that the reg Omega doesn't? Whats the Z5 have the Omega doesn't?
Has anyone that has cut the QLA off of their Omega barrel found that it improved the accuracy of it worthy of the cost incurred to do it?
 
Ninering62 said:
Both my .50 Omegas were Lam/SS models, if I'd had head back then that there was a .45 model I would have hunted it down like Bigfoot. I think that stock color is Nutmeg, but I'm not 100% on it.
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I tried to get a 45 Omega recently. Almost got it, I think, with much help from NatureNick. But the seller just flaked out. I'll keep looking for one though.
 
Loved my old Z5! Shot my first ever sub inch 200 yard group with her.
I liked the Z5s best because of the attachment of the action to barrel( I like the screws over welds as it makes a barrel change easier) and its possible to remove and clean the firing pin from the rear of the breech block.
Honestly though, you can't go wrong with any Omega. I believe they were the absolute best of the closed breech inlines.
 
Ninering62 said:
So, whats the Z7 & Dream Season have that the reg Omega doesn't? Whats the Z5 have the Omega doesn't?
Has anyone that has cut the QLA off of their Omega barrel found that it improved the accuracy of it worthy of the cost incurred to do it?
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If you're referring to the X7, it had the shorter barrel with fluting and milled flats back by the breech and a single ramrod thimble. The stock was a nutmeg laminate. The Z5's were the last version of the Omega. a few of the early ones had true SS and blued barrels and blued actions. Later, TC went to painted barrels, with the "Weathershield blued" version having the SS action and the " Weathershield SS" version having the Blued action. All the Z5's I've had were with plastic stocks. The Dream Season had the same barrel as the X7 but was a true lite weight version of the Omega due to the lite weight stock(not sure of the material).These descriptions are general. I believe TC built Omegas with what parts were on hand that's why there are overlapping features on different models. I've probably had 35 Omegas and I've seen a lot of different combos of parts from what I believe were factory rifles
Ninering62 said:
Both my .50 Omegas were Lam/SS models, if I'd had head back then that there was a .45 model I would have hunted it down like Bigfoot. I think that stock color is Nutmeg, but I'm not 100% on it.
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I don't think they made the .45 for very long. The highest serial number I have seen is in the 80,000's where as with the .50 ,I have seen 400,000(these numbers were on SS only) and then they changed the serial numbers the S&W numbers so who knows. Early .45's were 1-20 twist but most of them were sent back to TC due to accuracy issues. Sabot technology/materials were not up to task when it came to fast twist barrels back then. TC exchanged them for 1-28 twist barrel which were more friendly to the bullet/sabot combos of the day. If you find a 1-20 Omega you will be one lucky dude. They are as scarce as frog fur.
 
michiganmuzzy said:
I tried to get a 45 Omega recently. Almost got it, I think, with much help from NatureNick. But the seller just flaked out. I'll keep looking for one though.
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Dang! Sorry ya missed that one brotha. I hope ya find another one. Now I have an Omega Action due to the awesomeness of one of the MML members. I'm gonna pass along the orig barrel perhaps for a reasonable price. I have a cheap scope & rings on it I'm deff gettin rid of cheap' too. I'm gonna focus on a SML Omega .45 1:18. I'm slobberin all over Boyds sight a lot lately. I passed up a cpl .50 Omegas Camo TH & Lam TH both SS fluted barrels, they went for over 600.00 including shipping. One was like 585.00 W/0 shipping. I think a Nutmeg TH stock .50 SS/fluted was sold recently as well & that too was " up there " IMHO considering what they costed new. It's kinda weird hearin so many complain or just trash the TC's for their QLA's being " OFF center of bore " etc... but every single one of them that come up for sale ppl are talkin about them in our forum & others & everyone is after one & the prices are reflecting just that. I'm really sorry for anyone that had or has an Omega & has " issues " with it or its accuracy. I'm grateful that both of my experiences with them over ????? 15yrs or there abouts & they were shot a heck of a lot ( I was lucky enough to have a semi small group of country boys that all had a lg selection of guns, they loved shooting any kind of muzzleloader as often as we could back in the day ) I never had a single quality control issue, or malfunction, or accuracy issue with either one.
 
fishhawk2700 said:
If you're referring to the X7, it had the shorter barrel with fluting and milled flats back by the breech and a single ramrod thimble. The stock was a nutmeg laminate. The Z5's were the last version of the Omega. a few of the early ones had true SS and blued barrels and blued actions. Later, TC went to painted barrels, with the "Weathershield blued" version having the SS action and the " Weathershield SS" version having the Blued action. All the Z5's I've had were with plastic stocks. The Dream Season had the same barrel as the X7 but was a true lite weight version of the Omega due to the lite weight stock(not sure of the material).These descriptions are general. I believe TC built Omegas with what parts were on hand that's why there are overlapping features on different models. I've probably had 35 Omegas and I've seen a lot of different combos of parts from what I believe were factory rifles

I don't think they made the .45 for very long. The highest serial number I have seen is in the 80,000's where as with the .50 ,I have seen 400,000(these numbers were on SS only) and then they changed the serial numbers the S&W numbers so who knows. Early .45's were 1-20 twist but most of them were sent back to TC due to accuracy issues. Sabot technology/materials were not up to task when it came to fast twist barrels back then. TC exchanged them for 1-28 twist barrel which were more friendly to the bullet/sabot combos of the day. If you find a 1-20 Omega you will be one lucky dude. They are as scarce as frog fur.
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Great post. TY
 
Ninering62 said:
..........Has anyone that has cut the QLA off of their Omega barrel found that it improved the accuracy of it worthy of the cost incurred to do it?
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Yes indeed. Without question. Turns a rifle that shoots conicals like shotgun pellets into a real good shooter. Did it four times; worked good every one.

However, will never do it again; it isn't necessary. One can just use the
MMP ballistic bridge sub-base

The sub-base cure accuracy issues due to the QLA; no need to cut the QLA off.
 
Ninering62 said:
So, whats the Z7 & Dream Season have that the reg Omega doesn't? Whats the Z5 have the Omega doesn't?
Has anyone that has cut the QLA off of their Omega barrel found that it improved the accuracy of it worthy of the cost incurred to do it?
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I always thought the Z-5 was the entry level model. The are blued / composite. I think I paid $225 for it at Cabelas. That would have been about 2004.
 
LarryBud said:
I always thought the Z-5 was the entry level model. The are blued / composite. I think I paid $225 for it at Cabelas. That would have been about 2004.
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In the end the Z5 was the only model and I agree that is was TC's entry level rifle at that point. They moved on. By then TC had come out with the Encore, Bone Collector, Triumph. I'm not sure about the models, but ya get the picture. Marketing says bigger, better, more faster, gotta buy one of THESE!
 
TC Northwest Explorer. It's an Omega, in 1:48 twist. Mine wears a nice grey cammo composite stock, with RMEF logo. Stainless, .50. Didn't realize it could be re-barreled, as it looks like all one piece. I haven't been real pleased with the accuracy, so maybe I should have a nice fast-twist .45 put on it? 🤔
 
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fishhawk2700 said:
The Dream Season had the same barrel as the X7
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Not quite. Actually they were different.

X7
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Dream Season
https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/threads/dream-season-iron-sights.36595/
 

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