Blackhorn 209.....WTH

[shiner200gr]

I read a lot about Blackhorn 209 before I decided to buy it. I have always used Triple 7, but I had a need to bring the muzzle velocity up a bit to the prescribed muzzle velocity for a Burris 3-9's range reticle. They want 2,100 fps with a 250 grain for a match (100-300).
My CVA Accura is set up for 209 primers and I have been using CCI's without any problem. I was at 1975 fps with three 50 grain Triple 7 pellets. I figured 120 grains of Blackhorn should do the job from what I had read,
When I pulled the trigger, the primer went off.....then, a half second later, the powder went off.
Squeaky clean breech plug, all as it should be. This rifle has never had a hang fire in all the time I've owned it. Unless someone can give me a good reason for this, I'll have a full pound of Blackhorn for sale (minus 120 grains).
ll

 

[Matthew323]

I read a lot about Blackhorn 209 before I decided to buy it. I have always used Triple 7, but I had a need to bring the muzzle velocity up a bit to the prescribed muzzle velocity for a Burris 3-9's range reticle. They want 2,100 fps with a 250 grain for a match (100-300).
My CVA Accura is set up for 209 primers and I have been using CCI's without any problem. I was at 1975 fps with three 50 grain Triple 7 pellets. I figured 120 grains of Blackhorn should do the job from what I had read,
When I pulled the trigger, the primer went off.....then, a half second later, the powder went off.
Squeaky clean breech plug, all as it should be. This rifle has never had a hang fire in all the time I've owned it. Unless someone can give me a good reason for this, I'll have a full pound of Blackhorn for sale (minus 120 grains).
ll

Is the breech plug designed specifically for igniting BH209? If not, then that would be my first purchase/fix.

 

[deermanok]

Do you have the original QRBP that came with the rifle? If so you need to get the BH209 breech plug as mentioned.

 

[WV Hunter]

Ditto what they said, wrong BP is most likely the culprit.

 

[Smyrnagc]

Are your primers CCI 209M? Blackhorn recommends CCI 209M or Federal 209A. I have used the Winchester 209s exclusively with mine and never had an issue.

Also, what bullet are you using?

 

[retrieverman]

I’m also using Winchester 209 primers with BH209 in my Knight DISC-less (using bare primer breech plug), and it’s ignited/shot great.

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

Get yourself a Lehigh breech plug and an extra vent liner or two, and never look back.

 

[shiner200gr]

Is the breech plug designed specifically for igniting BH209? If not, then that would be my first purchase/fix.

The breech plug is a CVA breech for use with 209 shotgun primers. Whether or not it is also specifically for BH 209 I do not know. But I can tell you the plug is not too long and the hole in the business end is huge.

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

Sounds like a BH plug. Does it have "BH" stamped on it? Mine do.

 

[shiner200gr]

Are your primers CCI 209M? Blackhorn recommends CCI 209M or Federal 209A. I have used the Winchester 209s exclusively with mine and never had an issue.

Also, what bullet are you using?

The primers are CCI Magnum 209

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

See this post- page 2 for B Plug pics:- INline HangFires with T/C Encore Barrel

 

[shiner200gr]

See this post- page 2 for B Plug pics:- INline HangFires with T/C Encore Barrel

What post Cani ?

 

[Caniborrowsomeammo]

34, 35

 

[shiner200gr]

Sounds like a BH plug. Does it have "BH" stamped on it? Mine do.

The only marking on the plug is a tiny H on the fire end. Is there a consensus on the hottest 209 primer? I would not ever hunt with a setup that could even possibly hang fire on me.

 

[GM54-120]

The powder side should look like this or its the wrong plug.

 

[shiner200gr]

The powder side should look like this or its the wrong plug.

Well there we are folks, wrong plug for BH. Thank all of you gentlemen.

 

[HV-Muzzleloaders]

It takes only a spark to ignite Blackpowder, or most of the other substitutes.

However, since BH209 is a hybrid powder mainly made up of smokeless powder it takes some pressure to get it going. Do not give up on it, because it is much less corrosive and will be worth the effort.

 

[BuckDoeHunter]

You have 10 oz (minus a 120 grains), not a pound.

 

[mnoland30]

Even with the correct plug and primers,my Accura had issues on cold mornings with BH 209. Using loose 777 powder instead of pellets will increase your velocity. If your scope is second focal plane, changing the magnification wiill change the range reticle's moa. For the cost difference of BH209, you could buy a new scope and pay for it in a few years of shooting. I can't find any here in Albuquerque, even if I wanted to.

 

[shiner200gr]

Even with the correct plug and primers,my Accura had issues on cold mornings with BH 209. Using loose 777 powder instead of pellets will increase your velocity. If your scope is second focal plane, changing the magnification wiill change the range reticle's moa. For the cost difference of BH209, you could buy a new scope and pay for it in a few years of shooting. I can't find any here in Albuquerque, even if I wanted to.

Anyone know if the Burris Fullfield E1" 3-9x40 model #200347 muzzleloader scope is first or second focal plane? I can't find the instruction booklet.