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It’s not legal in VT either but it must be legal in enough places to make it viable.I was excited until I heard it was a .40 caliber. Illegal to deer hunt with in my state.
I've heard they have a couple of .40 caliber options coming out but my first thought was also a .40 caliber version paramount when I saw the velocity.From what I have found online the bullet used for that velocity is a new 40 cal 220 grain powerbelt ELR. My guess is its being shot out of a paramount.
Could you elaborate a lil more on that plzI would love to see the pressure curve of a 220gr 40cal at 2800fps using BH209.
Ahh Haa. Awesome read, thank you. I'm really diggin learning all this.One of the shooters from Friendship was testing out a 40 jacketed sabotless with BH209. Probably over a year ago. IIRC just 120gr by volume was getting bullets in the 225gr-250gr range over 2300fps. Bestill has a custom 40 also but i think he is shooting a fair amount of lead.
When you look at the Western load data for 40-65 loads you can see the peak is getting up there. Thats just 31gr by weight and a 410gr bullet. Yet nearly 28kpsi. Imagine 3 times that amount of powder and a 220gr bullet. Its not hard to imagine peak well over 32kpsi with that load. Maybe even close to 40kpsi. Dan at Swinglock mentioned it before when asked about a powder chamber to help reduce powder column length with BH209 in a 40cal. He seemed to imply it was NOT a good idea to have a chamber because peak would climb very fast.
The theory is/was, when BH209 reached a certain peak pressure its curve changes. In other words its burns faster once "critical mass" is reached.
Illegal to use - Period ? or, just illegal to use during designated ML season? That benefits some of us that can't have CF's any longer & can now shoot ML's at CF capability during reg gun season. We didn't have a rifle season where I'm from, only ML & shotgun. It was always a treat to get to hunt in neighboring states where one can shoot whatever the heck they want, any dang time they want. With NO worries. I really really want to get a used .40 SML or put one together.I was excited until I heard it was a .40 caliber. Illegal to deer hunt with in my state.
One rather neat thing I learned this yr in pushing my Paramounts capabilities was that - at a certain point in increased BH 209 charges that my MV dropped per gr of powder by 40%. Thats why I talked to you about whatelse I wanted to do. I am on that path now.One of the shooters from Friendship was testing out a 40 jacketed sabotless with BH209. Probably over a year ago. IIRC just 120gr by volume was getting bullets in the 225gr-250gr range over 2300fps. Bestill has a custom 40 also but i think he is shooting a fair amount of lead.
When you look at the Western load data for 40-65 loads you can see the peak is getting up there. Thats just 31gr by weight and a 410gr bullet. Yet nearly 28kpsi. Imagine 3 times that amount of powder and a 220gr bullet. Its not hard to imagine peak well over 32kpsi with that load. Maybe even close to 40kpsi. Dan at Swinglock mentioned it before when asked about a powder chamber to help reduce powder column length with BH209 in a 40cal. He seemed to imply it was NOT a good idea to have a chamber because peak would climb very fast.
The theory is/was, when BH209 reached a certain peak pressure its curve changes. In other words its burns faster once "critical mass" is reached.
Illegal to use - Period ? or, just illegal to use during designated ML season? That benefits some of us that can't have CF's any longer & can now shoot ML's at CF capability during reg gun season. We didn't have a rifle season where I'm from, only ML & shotgun. It was always a treat to get to hunt in neighboring states where one can shoot whatever the heck they want, any dang time they want. With NO worries. I really really want to get a used .40 SML or put one together.
I fully understand that. Thanks for the clarification.It can be used during regular rifle season but I have no interest in buying one just to shoot during regular rifle season.
In my state its all combined into "legal methods".
I can legally use a 40cal here for deer or elk. Although our elk hunts just started this year. I think they had 5 tags up for grabs?. I dont need the range of a high velocity 40cal but i sure would like to play around with BH209 and some 400ish grain conicals.
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