I’m new to this forum today. I own a CVA Paramount rifle. I really like the rifle but am very disappointed in its accuracy so far.
This is my second muzzle loader so I’m not an expert by any means. My first was a TC Triumph. It shot about 1.5” groups at 100 yards. Entirely adequate for Ohio primitive weapon deer season. When I saw the Paramount I sold my TC and ordered a Paramount.
Two weeks ago I took it to the range for the first time. Wiped the bore with a dry patch then loaded and fired a round at fifty yards. First round was an inch high and three quarter inch right from bore sighting. So I completely cleaned bore and fired at 100 yards. I guesstimated a correction for the additional fifty yards. Second shot was an inch high and three quarter inch left. So far so good, I thought. Cleaned the bore again and then did a series of shots, cleaning between each shot. My group of seven shots was about 4.5”.
Not impressive, not happy.
I was using BH 209 and variflame primer adapters with large rifle primers with CVA’s recommended minimum powder charge, weighing each charge with an electronic scale.
A week later I went back with maximum load by weight. Six shots, same procedure, cleaning between shots, group size pretty much the same, 4.5”. Not happy. Good enough I suppose for deer but it should be 1” groups at 100 yards. I’m shooting off bipod first week, sand bag second week.
I searched internet for Paramount owner comments and experiences but found nothing of value, just lame commentaries of how the rifle looked. CVA of course had their videos which showed impressive groups.
So I fire off an email to CVA explaining my disappointment. Today I received a reply from CVA.
CVA recommended a fouling shot before doing any grouping shots. They recommend not cleaning between shots because BH209 burns fairly clean. They said they have gone 8 to 10 shots between cleaning. My TC using Triple 7 had to be cleaned each shot or the sabot would not seat all the way to the pellets. So that’s why I clean between each shot.
Here is what CVA recommended:
I’m very skeptical about firing a round the day before and leaving the fouled rifle without cleaning it. CVA said with a nitrided bore there should not be a corrosion concern. I certainly did not have to do that with my TC.
Does anyone have any advice, experience or recommendations that I should try ? My next trip to the range will be using their recommended fouling method.
Randy
This is my second muzzle loader so I’m not an expert by any means. My first was a TC Triumph. It shot about 1.5” groups at 100 yards. Entirely adequate for Ohio primitive weapon deer season. When I saw the Paramount I sold my TC and ordered a Paramount.
Two weeks ago I took it to the range for the first time. Wiped the bore with a dry patch then loaded and fired a round at fifty yards. First round was an inch high and three quarter inch right from bore sighting. So I completely cleaned bore and fired at 100 yards. I guesstimated a correction for the additional fifty yards. Second shot was an inch high and three quarter inch left. So far so good, I thought. Cleaned the bore again and then did a series of shots, cleaning between each shot. My group of seven shots was about 4.5”.
Not impressive, not happy.
I was using BH 209 and variflame primer adapters with large rifle primers with CVA’s recommended minimum powder charge, weighing each charge with an electronic scale.
A week later I went back with maximum load by weight. Six shots, same procedure, cleaning between shots, group size pretty much the same, 4.5”. Not happy. Good enough I suppose for deer but it should be 1” groups at 100 yards. I’m shooting off bipod first week, sand bag second week.
I searched internet for Paramount owner comments and experiences but found nothing of value, just lame commentaries of how the rifle looked. CVA of course had their videos which showed impressive groups.
So I fire off an email to CVA explaining my disappointment. Today I received a reply from CVA.
CVA recommended a fouling shot before doing any grouping shots. They recommend not cleaning between shots because BH209 burns fairly clean. They said they have gone 8 to 10 shots between cleaning. My TC using Triple 7 had to be cleaned each shot or the sabot would not seat all the way to the pellets. So that’s why I clean between each shot.
Here is what CVA recommended:
I suppose that’s fine for a range gun but I explained that it’s not very practical to fire off a load just before heading into the woods to hunt.With the Paramount, it can be beneficial to fire a fouling shot prior to shooting for groups as typically they do perform best after one fouling shot to get the Blackhorn "burn ring" established.
I’m very skeptical about firing a round the day before and leaving the fouled rifle without cleaning it. CVA said with a nitrided bore there should not be a corrosion concern. I certainly did not have to do that with my TC.
Does anyone have any advice, experience or recommendations that I should try ? My next trip to the range will be using their recommended fouling method.
Randy