You just don't know JStanley!!! But I am a Titleist man myself! Take a look at the 130+ class 10 point we have crusing the golf course (poor picture quality from a cell phone). He has been harassing the does for two weeks now. I actually have a trail cam on the back nine each year and when I get bucks that we haven't seen showing up at the golf course I take PTO...LOL!