The Good, the bad and the UGLY

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  1. Jul 16, 2019 #21

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    I just don't understand what caused it to stick, short of me pushing hard trying to seat it. It started right down the barrel with one hand and my thumb over the end of the rod, just like every other bullet. It stopped 14.25" from the crown, or basically right at the end of the forearm. Jeff sent the modified plug out today and according to the tracking# will be here Thursday.
    Just another learning experience, no matter how hard. I know if a bullet stops before I get to the witness mark in the future, it'll get pushed OUT and not in.
     
  2. Jul 18, 2019 #22

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    UPDATE: The modified breech plug arrived a day earlier than the tracking # had indicated.

    I don't mind sharing my bad with any good......

    I installed the breech plug and started putting the grease to it. It got to the point and so hard to use that grease gun, I thought something was likely to expel from my body. I picked up a piece of metal tube I had and used that for a little more leverage. After 5 or 6 pumps the hose on the grease gun cracked. It was rated for 4K #. I ran and picked up a new hose rated for 10K.
    As I said, I thought I'd end up expelling something, but after a few new pumps, I checked with a dowel I had marked and found that it had moved out 1/8". I worked my ask off but finally it cleared the end of the barrel.

    I don't mind sharing my bad with any good. So here's what ...…. I had done. I had actually double loaded bullets. I've never done that before but there's always a first. Just like "dry balling" with a traditional. Why both bullets were stuck at 14.25" from the muzzle is anyone's guess though.

    So, DUNAMIS is all cleaned up and put back together, scope back on and its ready to re-zero it.

    Breech plug from Jeff....

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    MY problem. Now..... even though these bullets were only 14.25" down the bore, it also justifies the requirement of a witness mark on your ramrod. ALWAYS.

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  3. Jul 18, 2019 #23

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    Yea! :woohoo:Glad to here ya got it out. That one never crossed my mind. Do you think you might have got distracted when loading the first one, then ramming the second onto the first caused the first to mushroom into the grooves? Just curious.:think:
     
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  4. Jul 18, 2019 #24

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    I don't know it for fact, but I'm inclined to believe that I pushed the wad down, then the first bullet down with the short starter, then laid the starter down. For what ever reason, I likely picked up the second bullet and dropped it in the funnel, then just grabbed the ramrod to push it all the way down. When and if that happened, it may have pushed the first bullet to one side or the other, causing it to catch and stop. From that point and me using both hands and the "T" handle pushing harder, it/they just wedged themselves in the grooves.

    I need to find a better procedure for loading with the funnel through the brake. What I had been doing was to use the "T" handle and jag to push the wad into the barrel, then drop the bullet down and seat them both at one time with the rod. I believe the better way would be to just eliminate the "T" handle all together. Its not need to seat the bullets, nor to load them at 19#.

    Obviously I'm only guessing, but if I were to bet on what might have happened, I think the short starter usage caused my issue.
     
  5. Jul 18, 2019 #25

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    lucky it wedged might have shot it
     
  6. Jul 18, 2019 #26

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    I religiously use a witness mark, EVERY time without fail. I'd have noticed it immediately. However...…. if it had been shot, it might not be pretty.
     
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    That sounds like a reasonable idea to what happened.
     

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