New to inline

[RJPTRUCKING]

I've shot my old percussion cap probably 200xs now. Finally splurged got a new inline. Have a CVA Accura plains rifle coming Tuesday. I have a scope coming Wednesday. Hoping to site in quick and use it to snag a deer as our muzzle loader deer season opened this morning. I'm a trucker won't be home till Wednesday. Any helpful tips or any experience with this cva model would be wonders.

Now down to read everyone else's threads!

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Clean the bore and trigger mechanism.
Remove, Clean, and Loctite all the scope base and ring screws
Saboted bullets in the 250grn range usually shoot well in an Accura. Hornady, Thompson, or Barnes.
Foul or dry your bore and plug before loading to shoot it.
Don't over tighten the fore arm screw. Just really snug.
First time with the new breech plug crank it down TIGHT. Then remove it and just hand tight is fine.
There's a ton more but that should get you started right.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

Much appreciated. I know going from a percussion cap to an inline is a huge difference. Blue loctite or what one? Should I worry about cleaning the firing pin as well right away or no? What's a good load to start with would like to try to get it to get fairly close at 175 yards if all possibility.... I have a cva 209 breach plug coming as well.

Another question is sabboted rounds better or the powerbilts better?

 

[GM54-120]

Scrub the snot out of the bore just to be sure. Its nitride so the may not use the same "shipping lube" they used in the past on other barrels.

Sabots provide better ballistics at a far better price. You can buy the sabots and bullets separately but atm bulk bullets will be a pain to find. IMO the first sabot you should try is the Harvester black EZ Load for upto 300gr bullets. Typically this sabot fits the CVA bores pretty good.

Just to keep it simple and easy to find you can buy both of these directly from Harvester. You could buy a pack of the Crushribs too but the smooth sabots normally work fine.

Sabots
https://www.harvestermuzzleloading....-452-cal-300-grain-or-less-bullet-pack-qty-50
Scorpion PT Gold. 260gr or 300gr in 50 packs for $27ish.
https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php/products/scorpion-pt-gold
Ask for a sample of the black crushribs

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Much appreciated. I know going from a percussion cap to an inline is a huge difference. Blue loctite or what one? Should I worry about cleaning the firing pin as well right away or no? What's a good load to start with would like to try to get it to get fairly close at 175 yards if all possibility.... I have a cva 209 breach plug coming as well.

Another question is sabboted rounds better or the powerbilts better?

Yes blue loctite
Lots of Accura owners find 90 grains of loose powder a great load. Start at 80 and work up in 5 grain increments.
I would say stay away from PowerBelts. They can be accurate but not great at deer killin.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

This is what I had the wife pick up. Only muzzle loading supplies in 3 stores.... I do have a big bulk pack of powerbelts I might use to sight in the rifle. Have cva 209 beach plug coming because when I first got into using muzzle loaders a lady sold me wrong powder aka black horn 209.... Sooo that was my excuse to buy a new gun lol

 

[GM54-120]

Those Triple7 primers will give you nothing but grief with BH209. They are MUCH weaker than a standard Win209.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

I can't find any federal or cci primers anywhere near me. Could you explain about the primers?

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

Are you talking about the primers or powder? Primers I have are the winchesters.

 

[GM54-120]

The primers you have clearly say Winchester Triple7 primers. THOSE ARE THE WRONG PRIMERS FOR BH209.

You want standard Win209 primers, Nobel 209/688 or one of the mag primers for your CVA.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

I'll have to see if I can pick some didn't primers coming home. Had the wife pick it up had the a guy helping her so wasn't there and I'm not knowledgeable yet with in lines . I'm assuming they'll work well with pellets just now powder? Wanted to find the federal ones.

 

[GM54-120]

They might be ok using the OEM plug and Triple7 pellets. They are fine for Triple7 loose powder. I would not use them with the BH209 plug and pellets. The pellet will sit further away from the flash hole and might not be reliable.

 

[deermanok]

You can use all those components in your post ok.
The correct primers for BH 209 might not be so easy to find these days. Seems like everyone is out of CCI or Winchester, or Federal.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

You can use all those components in your post ok.
The correct primers for BH 209 might not be so easy to find these days. Seems like everyone is out of CCI or Winchester, or Federal.

Will they be fine with the oem plug that's included? The 209 plug is coming seperate as I know you need that plug for loose powder. I appreciate everyone's wisdom

 

[GM54-120]

Loose Triple7 (powder) will work fine with either plug. Triple7 pellets will be better if used with the plug that came with the rifle.

 

[RJPTRUCKING]

So what's the big difference between the powder brands? Why does it seem like bh209 is the go too powder? Don't see much real discussion about reasoning behind which is better.

 

[deermanok]

The Black Horn 209 is sort of a smokeless powder. More power grain for grain than other subs. Easier to clean up.
When I owned an inline rifle, I made the switch from good old black powder to BH209.
I currently own an inline pistol that I'm shooting Swiss 3f powder out of. I have some BH209 but I can't get the correct primers for reliable ignition.

 

[Jbrown69]

Scrub the snot out of the bore just to be sure. Its nitride so the may not use the same "shipping lube" they used in the past on other barrels.

Sabots provide better ballistics at a far better price. You can buy the sabots and bullets separately but atm bulk bullets will be a pain to find. IMO the first sabot you should try is the Harvester black EZ Load for upto 300gr bullets. Typically this sabot fits the CVA bores pretty good.

Just to keep it simple and easy to find you can buy both of these directly from Harvester. You could buy a pack of the Crushribs too but the smooth sabots normally work fine.

Sabots
https://www.harvestermuzzleloading....-452-cal-300-grain-or-less-bullet-pack-qty-50
Scorpion PT Gold. 260gr or 300gr in 50 packs for $27ish.
https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php/products/scorpion-pt-gold
Ask for a sample of the black crushribs

I use the Scorpion PT Gold 300 grn in the harvester short black smooth sabot above 100 grn Volume of blackhorn 209. It is very accurate. Read their manual that comes with the gun. Also be careful not to drop the firing pin spring. Hard to find. Lol. You will like the gun.

 

[Clockguypete]

I recently switched to BH209 in my Thompson Omega stainless 50cal. Loaded 100g powder, 250g TC shockwave easy glide(yellow), Winchester triple 7 209 primer. Was kissing the 1in target center on second shot after a little scope adjustment. Fired two triple 7 primers and one Remington STS primer. No misfires, flash hole still open when held up to light and looking through it. Did not not swab between shots. Just my personal experience. I’ve been reading this forum for two years, and I get the impression most misfires are due to lack of, or improper cleaning. You put any kind of spark near BH209, it going to go boom!

 

[MrTom]

RJP.....you do not mention where you live. Here in SE Minnesota using BH209 powder, one most certainly needs a shotshell reloading primer for hunting in cold weather. The "muzzleloader" specific primers don't have enough heat in the ignition to reliably fire BH. I've tried just about all of the muzzy specific primers at the range with 209 powder and have had plenty of issues with ignition using them at temps lower than 30 degrees....using clean plugs no less.

Personally I'd pass on any powder other than BH209 and get the gun set up to shoot it reliably from the get go, meaning shotshell reloading primers, BH209 powder, sabots and bullets. What you have in the picture you included is what I would use at the range to get the barrel "shot in" and for rough sight-in. Order bullets, sabots and find your BH209 and appropriate primers while you're shooting what you have.