Converted Paramount

[Customguns]

Yes, after leakage, everything was changed.

 

[Philgumbo]

With the price of Blackhorn going stupid high, This smokeless conversion makes sense to me. I'll get a Brux barrel from the factory, it's only 2.5 hour drive from home and have a local gunsmith put it together. He knows how. Is my Arrowhead breech plug and gen 2 module system OK for smokeless?

I think a lot of folks on these threads put way too much energy into the "powder" issue. I think regardless of powder, a lot of hunters should spend more time trying to get closer to their quarry, just for starters. And Triple Seven has worked just fine for over the years. Smokeless powder? Might as well just give up muzzle loader hunting and just hunt regular gun season!

 

[ENCORE50A]

.................... Smokeless powder? Might as well just give up muzzle loader hunting and just hunt regular gun season!

Yes, smokeless powder! This .... IS .... the smokeless section of the site. If you're not a smokeless shooter or at least interested in it, there's another part of the site that will likely be more interesting to you. Sidelock/Traditional Muzzleloading

 

[Pathfinder60]

I think a lot of folks on these threads put way too much energy into the "powder" issue. I think regardless of powder, a lot of hunters should spend more time trying to get closer to their quarry, just for starters. And Triple Seven has worked just fine for over the years. Smokeless powder? Might as well just give up muzzle loader hunting and just hunt regular gun season!

And I think you should take a minute and take into account the type of shooting we're talking about here. 300 yards and out. There is a section on this forum for guys like you. You sir are out of place.

 

[Pathfinder60]

Headspace wasn’t loose. If you would read the thread I specifically say this happened with smokeless powder only. Did not happen with Blackhorn209. Nothing misleading. I called Luke, which I think is you and told you about the leakage and you had no answer. I replaced your bolt head with mine, still same problem. I then switched to Hankins with another new bolt head and no more problem and it’s been that way for all the Paramount conversions since.

Why did you tag me in your post and then not respond to my post?
Maybe we all need to take a step back and cool off....

 

[Pathfinder60]

I think a lot of folks on these threads put way too much energy into the "powder" issue. I think regardless of powder, a lot of hunters should spend more time trying to get closer to their quarry, just for starters. And Triple Seven has worked just fine for over the years. Smokeless powder? Might as well just give up muzzle loader hunting and just hunt regular gun season!

And furthermore....no one needs another self appointed arbiter on what everyone "needs to do" on this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Who do you people think you are dictating policy unsolicited. That's the problem with ether based media...it's made badasses out of chicken shits. Keyboard commandos....

 

[Ninering62]

And I think you should take a minute and take into account the type of shooting we're talking about here. 300 yards and out. There is a section on this forum for guys like you. You sir are out of place.

NAILED IT!

 

[Ninering62]

And furthermore....no one needs another self appointed arbiter on what everyone "needs to do" on this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Who do you people think you are dictating policy unsolicited. That's the problem with ether based media...it's made badasses out of chicken shits. Keyboard commandos....

NAILED IT - AGAIN!!!

 

[abaleena94]

Whats the absolute lowest price to convert a paramount? Without extras like scope or rings etc. Just the machining of the bolt/barrel, hanks ignition, and a cheep stainless barrell.

 

[Mnt monkey]

The bolt doesn't really have to be machined,, just a new tip for it,, Woodman arms Hankins Arrowhead Etc breach plug and modules,, I'm not real sure what you mean by Cheap stainless Barrel I think the cheapest you can do this is around $1,000 maybe 1200 and that's you doing some of the work yourself like stock work etc taking your other Barrel off installing your new Barrel if you have to pay someone to do it for you you're looking at 15 to $2,000 just what I think anyway I know there's another gunsmith on here custom builder I'm not sure what his bottom line prices are I would imagine you're going to see a lot more on the Paramount getting rebuilt in the coming years the barrel is everything I sure wouldn't be looking for a cheap alternative at least with that I might get a cheap stock or a cheap trigger a cheap muzzle brake but I wouldn't look for a cheap Barrel I'm a poor man too I understand trying to do things frugal

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Whats the absolute lowest price to convert a paramount? Without extras like scope or rings etc. Just the machining of the bolt/barrel, hanks ignition, and a cheep stainless barrell.

Why would you go cheap (cheep?) on the most important part of the gun, the barrel?

 

[Customguns]

Without scope base or muzzle brake you can get the materials for $1000. That includes a Brux barrel. If you know how to put it together about $1000 is your absolute cheapest price, while still using a Brux barrel.

 

[mwwoodman]

I'm around $1200 for a Brux barrel, recoil lug, breech plug and bolt nose. All my breech and bolt parts are 17-4 stainless so they wont be rusting or corroding like the steel or 416 stainless stuff.

 

[white eagle]

I have all kinds of smokeless guns cept they all load from the breech

 

[HV-Muzzleloaders]

I have all kinds of smokeless guns cept they all load from the breech

Like the "Nitrofire" half-muzzleloader/half-breechloader...

 

[white eagle]

now you all did it
got me thinking of converting one of my Encore barrels to SML
Has anyone used or heard of a 44 cal ML rifle?

 

[Mnt monkey]

I built two a couple years back they were 423 bore if you get to looking at the 44 Cal there's about three different versions of it I do think having a bore or a barrel that would easily load 429 and 430 bullets would be a good idea I may revisit that sometime

 

[abaleena94]

I'm around $1200 for a Brux barrel, recoil lug, breech plug and bolt nose. All my breech and bolt parts are 17-4 stainless so they wont be rusting or corroding like the steel or 416

 

[45-70]

I’ve converted quite a few Paramounts to smokeless. My first three I used the Arrowhead breech plug. They all leaked and a 300 grain Pittman pushed by 72 grains of H4198 disintegrated my primer. I changed those three guns to Hankins ignitions and all the ones I built since are Hankins. No excess pressure, no blown primers and that includes a 300 grain Pittman pushed by 78 grains of H4198.

bullshit

 

[Customguns]

Classy of you.