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[Pathfinder60]

luv it when folks post this on their asian computer or asian phone !

There are no American made options when it comes to cell phones so your analogy doesn't hold water. There is no sin in buying or being American. You're skating on thin ice chum...

 

[dwm]

luv it when folks post this on their asian computer or asian phone !

If they made an American phone,I would have one

 

[user 30396]

got a MRX 50 for christmas , advertised to have their finest Bergera barrel . returned it because it wouldn't hold a patch on the jag and when i pulled the BP and looked in this is what i saw . double click to zoom for a bigger pic
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Nice pic, bad barrel. But how does it shoot?

 

[JeffB1961]

There are no American made options when it comes to cell phones so your analogy doesn't hold water. There is no sin in buying or being American. You're skating on thin ice chum...

never said it was a sin . i buy american when i can afford it .
me and thin ice are close friends .

 

[JeffB1961]

Nice pic, bad barrel. But how does it shoot?

i have no idea since i never shot it . i contacted MidwayUSA and sent them a pic . they arranged for the return and refunded the money .
it may have been the most accurate muzzleloader barrel ever to exist , but i'll never know .

 

[user 30396]

i have no idea since i never shot it . i contacted MidwayUSA and sent them a pic . they arranged for the return and refunded the money .
it may have been the most accurate muzzleloader barrel ever to exist , but i'll never know .

You made the right choice by far! How it shoots is academic and would have been interesting. But it might void your warranty and return.

 

[JeffB1961]

BTW , here's an American made phone .
$1300 with a ETA of 52 weeks .
get your orders in boys !

https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
https://www.toptenreviews.com/what-cell-phones-are-made-in-the-usa

 

[jbs27572]

I have a 2008 CVA Wolf and have no issues with it. That being said, if they are having quality control issues again, I would probably go with another brand. Once is a thing that can happen. Twice is starting to be a pattern. I am referring of course to the genuine f ups in 1995 and 96. They apparently were only proofed to 10,000 psi and a 150 gr magnum charge can generate 2.5 times that pressure. It did not end well with a few consumers.

 

[MeatMachine]

got a MRX 50 for christmas , advertised to have their finest Bergera barrel . returned it because it wouldn't hold a patch on the jag and when i pulled the BP and looked in this is what i saw . double click to zoom for a bigger pic
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That looks like it could be the junk that is left over from the nitriding process. I had a wolf nitrided and the bore looked horrible until I cleaned it out. It takes more than patches to do it. Now the bore looks perfect and shoots excellent.

 

[JeffB1961]

it wouldn't hold a patch . i put 3 down and had to remove the BP each time to remove it because it came off the jag when i went to putt it out . used the same range rod and jag and the same patches from the same container on a 2003 50 optima and had no issues befor and after the MRX . i wasn't about to fix a brand new gun that was supposed to have a awesome barrell to start with . i'm glad your wolf is doing well for you .

 

[dwm]

BTW , here's an American made phone .
$1300 with a ETA of 52 weeks .
get your orders in boys !

https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
https://www.toptenreviews.com/what-cell-phones-are-made-in-the-usa

Thanks for the link, not crazy on the price either.I think an iPhone is probably close in price

 

[CatamountRob]

Thanks for the link, not crazy on the price either.I think an iPhone is probably close in price

The iPhone that I bought and then dropped down a hole ice fishing a month later was $850 and that was 2 years ago. They’re probably over 1K now.

 

[Okie Hog]

They apparently were only proofed to 10,000 psi and a 150 gr magnum charge can generate 2.5 times that pressure. It did not end well with a few consumers.

Yep, there is no requirement that US made muzzleloaders be proofed. Ditto for all other US made guns.

 

[jd24.5.48]

I bought an Accura V2 Lr .50 with the thumb hole stock in 2020. The Lr-X was just coming out and I decided on the older Accura V2 with the nitride and cerakoted barrel. When I received it and opened it up I was quite surprised that it was Realtree Edge camouflage instead of the Veil camouflage that I ordered! After checking out the Rifle I decided that I liked it and kept it. The bore was dirty when I received it but it cleaned up very quickly and the bore looked great. It shoots 1-1.5 inch groups at 100yds! I've owned quite a few CVA rifles and they all have been good muzzleloaders.

 

[primer mark]

If you don't like the Knight line of ML's you don't have any other option than to get an import.That I know of?

 

[dwm]

If you don't like the Knight line of ML's you don't have any other option than to get an import.That I know of?

Woodman

 

[JeffB1961]

was just getting ready to post the woodman arms patriot . i have one on order (45 brux forest camo) it's made in Fremont NH the owner (Mark Woodman) has been just great with communication by phone text e-mail and PMs here because he is a member and contributes here regularly . the ONLY down side is a 20 week ETA because they're custom made to order . on mine Mark is gonna thread the barrel for a brake and make me a brake and thread cap for it with everything nitrided/melonited . i'm also getting his P1 mount .

https://woodmanarms.com/patriot-muzzleloader.php

 

[Newtire]

luv it when folks post this on their asian computer or asian phone !

I am still using my Massey-Ferguson but it's getting harder to find tubes anymore.

luv it when folks post this on their asian computer or asian phone !

 

[michiganmuzzy]

I am still using my Massey-Ferguson but it's getting harder to find tubes anymore.

Massey-Ferguson made computers and cell phones?!? I would totally buy one… even if it does use tubes instead of transistors… bet it’s big and heavy.

 

[Newtire]

Massey-Ferguson made computers and cell phones?!? I would totally buy one… even if it does use tubes instead of transistors… bet it’s big and heavy.

The diesel charger is a bit cumbersome to lug around.