Projectiles for modern inlines

[Half-Cocked]

It seems I'm surrounded by challenged people. I searched high and low and no one has black powder.

The idiots think they have black powder when I asked tell me they have it. then I get excited and ask.... yea do you have 2 f? That's when they say it's triple 7 or its pyrodex. I love this state but sometimes I wonder.

I'm originally from California I'd walk into any big 5 and buy it. In addition to that where are the gunsmiths? There's like three of them within an hour and a half radius. and they're the ones telling me yeah they have black powder but it's called triple 7. I wouldn't trust those gunsmiths for s***.

Looks like I'm going to have to pay the damn hazmat fee thanks government. Stern the wonder if this was a mistake I should have just stuck to modern cartridge firearms.

Oh and the local stores that do have pyrodex or white hots are ridiculously expensive. I'm sorry but I'm not paying $2 and some change just to fire my gun every round. I'd rather fire a 50 BMG for that cost.

 

[ENCORE50A]

................. I'm sorry but I'm not paying $2 and some change just to fire my gun every round. I'd rather fire a 50 BMG for that cost.

Wait until you get real serious and bullets run $2.10 each.

If you can't find it, order it but purchase enough to last.

 

[Boommeup]

I believe there’s special regulations for black powder, as opposed to all the new wonderful supplemental powders on the market today!

 

[Half-Cocked]

I believe there’s special regulations for black powder, as opposed to all the new wonderful supplemental powders on the market today!

On that note in a search for pyrodex and fireworks I found this... Pretty sure this guy's in Germany. And I'm pretty sure he's not using pyrodex.

 

[Boommeup]

Thats a BIG bullet. I doubt you could find a sabot long enuff for that one.

That bullets last rib lube ring is at .65! SO, how deep of a cup is on a harvester sabot for that 457125 bullet? It would be fun to play with, just not into cracking stocks and sore shoulders.

 

[Boommeup]

Holy crap Gabpan!!! I learned my lesson about playing with Bpowder when I was ten in ‘68. Got in my dads powder, put about a pound on the ground and kept trying to light it. (Like in all the cowboy movies) Yeah, it wasn’t a good day! Burned all the hair off my head with 2nd degree burns on my face! Got to hand it to my dad for showing me the right way.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Holy crap Gabpan!!! I learned my lesson about playing with Bpowder when I was ten in ‘68. Got in my dads powder, put about a pound on the ground and kept trying to light it. (Like in all the cowboy movies) Yeah, it wasn’t a good day! Burned all the hair off my head with 2nd degree burns on my face! Got to hand it to my dad for showing me the right way.

yeah you definitely can't have that stuff just laying around especially with children in the house just like TNT. Man I am sorry to hear about your experience.

 

[Boommeup]

Just part of growing up! I healed up just fine. LOL

 

[deerlessbob]

You’ll need to put a little grease on your firing pin. Just remove the pin and spring using the multi tool that came with your Wolf.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Not to beat a dead horse but I'm about to. I'm certain the second rifle has been fired as well. I've now seen barrels after being used and that's what I'm dealing with now. The stringi kind of powder stalactites and stalagmites. Growing like crystals.

It kind of pisses me off I'm going to have a gunsmith look at it today for tomorrow. If he doesn't give me a 100% okay this one's going back too.

I'll just buy everything from Cabela's.

I need to go to Cabela's anyway I think I'm going to go ahead and go with the pyrodex. I would do the loose powder but they don't seem to have that there so I'm going to have to go with the pellets. If I get powder I'll need more supplies.

They seem to have everything at Cabela's except for black powder. I even tried calling some of the fireworks retailers around and they don't sell it. That's fine it seems synthetic powder has velocity anyway.

since the stuff is sold by weight but used by volume and since the synthetics are lighter I think you get more out of 16 oz of synthetic powder than regular black powder which has a higher Mass.

If I stick to a 50 grain charge with the cheap shot sabots and Winchester 777 209 primers it will cost me about a dollar twenty a shot. Edit make that $0.90 a shot bad math. Even cheaper with 45 reload bullets and sabots. I can get that down to about $0.60 a shot. That includes powder primer bullet and sabot. I can live with that for now.

but most importantly I need to get this bore figured out.

I need to find that borescope so I can show you guys what I am seeing. It could just be really stubborn black powder and or powder substitute residue.

I find it odd though that most of the rifling is clean except for these three spirals going all the way down the barrel that are deeper than the rest of the rifling. Now of course it could just appear that way an optical illusion of the dark versus shiny. but the part that I think is damaged in the rifling appears on the same spot in both barrels.

Now isn't that a coincidence?

 

[GM54-120]

Scrub the snot out of it with J-B Bore Cleaner (Blue/White container) mixed with a little oil like Kroil. Use a good tight patch. Start with 40-50 passes. Then clean that out for an inspection. Repeat if needed. You could also use Montana X-treme bore polish on its own. Both are good cleaners for occasional use.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Do a bore treament like GM54 says. You get what you pay for. But you've got a good gun to start with. You're just gonna have to do all the work that the builders would have done if you paid more. As for the bore rifling similarities, both guns were likely cut on the same machine around the same time making them very much alike. A polished bore is going to foul less and cleanup easier. So git after it!

 

[Half-Cocked]

I worked at a company that manufactured all OEM Harley Davidson motorcycles. They were originally shipped out of salinas California to the Harley hubs in Nebraska Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. They prided themselves on quality. Once in awhile something would slip through and be sent to a Harley plant.

We would then ship that item back from the Midwest to Salinas to have it reworked. Then we would include it in the next shipment back out to Harley.

Want my theory? CVA gets a bunch of these barrels from Dikar in Spain to the US. The CVA rifles being assembled in Connecticut.

CVA notices something crappy about a dikar shipment. Say barrels with some shity rifling. They then exclude that lot and rather than send them back to Spain for rework they manufacture them into rifles that are for the online market rather than a retail location say Cabela's or a large chain where they have a contract.
Because hey it's always easier to return to a store. Send somebody something on mine and say no refunds that's a different story you can ship them practically anything and they more than likely keep it.
no I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here and assuming that there are rifles made by CVA in the wolf line that have better barrels than what I've looked at. It could be they're all just crappy.
I'm just dying to go into a Cabela's or dicks and ask if I could see one out of the box.
I also don't know but if this is there machining oil after one year of production caked-on to the barrel they need to use a different machining oil.
Unless of course both the guns from Midway were fired at some point.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Their oil is pretty awful. Dont know if its machining oil or just a storage protectant.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Their oil is pretty awful. Dont know if its machining oil or just a storage protectant.

I'm ordering some hoppes black powder bore cleaner. I need another 50 cal bristle brush as since mine broke.

Should be here soon I ordered it from Amazon. Found out the local Dunham's sporting goods Carries Pyrex and triple 7. I'm certain they have in pellet form I'm not sure about powder.

I found my borescope took a video and on the video it doesn't look as bad as it looks by the naked eye.

This baked on crap that I'm struggling with. I've used alcohol I've used hydrogen peroxide I've used mineral oil. Is some of the worst stuck on s*** I have seen in my life.

I'll try to upload a good video to YouTube and post a link here.

The one good thing about the CVA wolf is with the rifle disassembled the barrel is easily removed. I stripped off the scope mount and the iron sights. Just so I could really handle it and scrub the crap out of it.

It does make it super easy to put the whole thing in a tub of simple Green then blow dry and oil is necessary if need be.

Here's the kicker though once I started really getting at those three lands that had the most dirt on them or Greece or whatever. I noticed that my patches started coming out Brown. Brown makes me think of rust. I didn't see any rest on the video but everything looks grey the borescope kind of sucks.

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Maybe try something more aggressive like Kroil to clean it with. That stuff is amazing. Let it set in there for a little bit. 15-20 minutes then scrub the heck out of it. Repeat til clean.

 

[Half-Cocked]

here is the vid

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Keeps saying its unavailable. Private video.

 

[Boommeup]

I started using a product from Wipe-Out called Tactical Advantage. Suppose to take care of copper, carbon and powder residue. Bottle say blue=copper, carbon=brown and of course powder is black. So if your get brown it’s probably carbon and or rust. Says not to get it on varnish, rinse with water. I don’t believe there’s any ammonia in it to eat your bore! Give the chemicals time to work. This could take days to get clean. Oh, bought this from Brownells.

 

[Half-Cocked]

Keeps saying its unavailable. Private video.

I think I fix it now. Sorry about that.
here is the vid