BH 209 ?

[rusticbob]

I shoot a T/C Triumph with two T7 pellets. I recently picked up a can of BH209 and want to try it. The Triumph shoots great at 100 yds with T7, am I going to gain anything going to BH209?
I am shooting T/C 250gr Shockwave sabots.

 

[deermanok]

From what I've been reading here, it appears you could achieve the same results by using a bit less of the Blackhorn. Range time will tell the story.

 

[MrTom]

If you're shooting 50 grain pellets I'd start with 100 grains of bh209 by volume. Should give you very near the same accuracy and poi. My Accura likes a 250 grain pill to be delivered with 77 weighed grains of BH209 [110 by volume] and the two guns are very close in likenesses. Start at the 110[v] and try 10 grains either side of that to see if one direction or the other shows better performance.

 

[rusticbob]

Thanks, that’s great info!

 

[toytruck]

In addition you won't have a crud ring like that of T7. Just shoot no swabbing needed.

 

[rusticbob]

I will try it for sure, but with only 10oz of BH209 to play with, it would be nice to have a starting place.

 

[MrTom]

Ballistically, I think you'll find the two powders so close together that using one at the range and the other in the deer stand just makes sense. In the field you want a carefree reload. BH gives you that. Plus, it's as close to weatherproof as you can get. Not so with T7.

Honestly, I think you will find your sweet spot with BH somewhere between 100 and 110 grains by volume Rustic. The money spent on the BH is simply a very good insurance policy, but be sure you are using shotshell reloading primers, not the muzzleloader primers. Winchester 209, CCI and Federal 209A are great primers to use when hunting. I use Winchester 209 primers.

At the club I shoot T7 fffg granulation, same charge weight as the bh 209 in each of the three guns I hunt with and they shoot identical to the same weighed charge of BH 209. I will not hunt with T7, period.

 

[rusticbob]

Ballistically, I think you'll find the two powders so close together that using one at the range and the other in the deer stand just makes sense. In the field you want a carefree reload. BH gives you that. Plus, it's as close to weatherproof as you can get. Not so with T7.

Honestly, I think you will find your sweet spot with BH somewhere between 100 and 110 grains by volume Rustic. The money spent on the BH is simply a very good insurance policy, but be sure you are using shotshell reloading primers, not the muzzleloader primers. Winchester 209, CCI and Federal 209A are great primers to use when hunting. I use Winchester 209 primers.

At the club I shoot T7 fffg granulation, same charge weight as the bh 209 in each of the three guns I hunt with and they shoot identical to the same weighed charge of BH 209. I will not hunt with T7, period.

Just the kind of info I was looking for. That’s why I check this forum every day, thanks all?
Sounds like 100 gr by volume would work, I will respond back After I shoot it.

 

[ronlaughlin]

My guess is about 90g, or 95g Blackhorn will produce near the same speed as 100g of triple seven pellets. Based on comparing loose powder of the two powder types anyway

 

[rmagnus]

In CO you can’t use pellets or scopes. Iron sights and loose powder only. Where I hunt elk it’s difficult to get a second shot with a bolt gun much less a smoke pole. Yes 777 is dirty and leaves a crud ring but I can shoot 3 times with out cleaning in between shots. Make cleaning harder so I don’t usually do it. I also hunt AZ and pretty much anything goes in the Wild Wild West.

 

[txhunter58]

I would agree with Ron. I suspect you will be closer to your 777 load at around 90 gr by volume.

My brother and I shoot 90-95 gr of BH for our elk loads. Not sure why people want to spend more money and have more recoil than they need.

A day at the range is so much nicer with BH. It was amazing the first time I shot 30 times without swabbing once. Also, don’t worry near as much about BH causing rust.

how did it go shooting it?

 

[Jmgstr]

I have found more consistency with weighing the charges versus volume charges just my two cents

 

[ENCORE50A]

I have found more consistency with weighing the charges versus volume charges just my two cents

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