large rifle primers in a 209 skirt ?

[marlinmonty]

Kind of read about how the LR primers are seeming to become a highly thought of idea . I have many thousands of LR primers on hand as a reloader myself .

Is there any merit to this somewhat new ignition source ? Worth the trouble of priming a empty 209 jacket ?

I understand that its less powerful but a more concintrated flame ? There for a better igniter ?

Kind of peaked my interest . Anyone ?

MM

 

[marlinmonty]

I honestly don't want to reinvent the wheel but If it helps within 250 yards I could see where it may be worth it ?

 

[michiganmuzzy]

CAN you reload a 209 primer? I thought they were a "one & done" item. I also thought they're different in some other way internally or chemically.

 

[marlinmonty]

Im sure it could be done but not that I know of . Im seeing where a 209 primer without the primer itself is basicly empty and a large rifle primer is put in it .

 

[michiganmuzzy]

If you try, let us know how it goes. I have an LRMP setup for my CVA and it is awesome. But the 209s are leak prone and especially with heavy loads. Wouldn't that still be the case if you were repriming them? I will send you all the fired 209s you want to try out.

 

[marlinmonty]

LOL . Im good . Its seems the LR primer thing is getting traction . I just came across an article on it and scanned threw it .

 

[marlinmonty]

What exactly is a LRMP ? Large Rifle ? ?

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Yeah i have my cva accura setup with lrmp breechplug and it works great its just a little tricky to reload while hunting.

 

[ENCORE50A]

LOL . Im good . Its seems the LR primer thing is getting traction . I just came across an article on it and scanned threw it .

Luke from Arrowhead Rifles makes a breech plug to fit the Encore and another for CVA that utilize rifle primers Luke is a member here.

https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/tc_encore_plug/

https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/cva_qrbp/

 

[ENCORE50A]

Luke from Arrowhead Rifles makes a breech plug to fit the Encore and another for CVA that utilize rifle primers Luke is a member here.

https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/tc_encore_plug/

https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/cva_qrbp/

 

[marlinmonty]

Got it . Google is your friend .
https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/gen2_dss_replacement/

Wowzeers ! Tad spendy outfit .

 

[marlinmonty]

Guess we posted about the same time . Care to elaborate some on where it shines ? I get the no more leak part although I never really seen a lot of leakage on a fairly new rifle myself .

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Leak proof ultra reliable ignition on BH209 tho

 

[ENCORE50A]

Leak proof ultra reliable ignition on BH209 tho

Absolutely agree 100%.

Got it . Google is your friend .
https://www.arrowheadrifles.com/product/gen2_dss_replacement/

Wowzeers ! Tad spendy outfit .

Nothing about high quality is cheap.

 

[marlinmonty]

Interesting for sure . Clearly some of you fellas are WAY down the rabbit hole on these smoke poles , Thumbs up .

MM

 

[michiganmuzzy]

Ha! You have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes!

 

[Sideshow]

Kind of read about how the LR primers are seeming to become a highly thought of idea . I have many thousands of LR primers on hand as a reloader myself .

Is there any merit to this somewhat new ignition source ? Worth the trouble of priming a empty 209 jacket ?

I understand that its less powerful but a more concintrated flame ? There for a better igniter ?

Kind of peaked my interest . Anyone ?

MM

Hotter flame less volume they say . I load for 300 win mag so i have a few,lol, large rifle magnum primers , LRMP . BY FAR the biggest torch are the Winchesters , a primed empty case will blow flames out of a 26in barrel .
Ive thought of what you are saying . But i think it would be better to canibalize a new 209 . That flimsy carrier their in distorts from pressure when fired . Not too good to seal up again . Just my thoughts ive had......

Heres another thought back at ya --- load 10gr T7 3f FIRST then your blackhorn load minus 5gr on top of that . Gets it talkin.......easier than foolin with primers......

 

[ShawnT]

Personally never heard of trying to reload a spent 209 primer cup with a LRP. Not too sure it would work as I would think the LRP would be seated to low in the cup to allow the firing pin to strike it. IF left up high enough for the firing pin to hit it then the strike would just push it deeper in the cup and most likely not set off the primer.
Maybe what you have been hearing about is the VariFlame Adapter?

 

[Sideshow]

Personally never heard of trying to reload a spent 209 primer cup with a LRP. Not too sure it would work as I would think the LRP would be seated to low in the cup to allow the firing pin to strike it. IF left up high enough for the firing pin to hit it then the strike would just push it deeper in the cup and most likely not set off the primer.
Maybe what you have been hearing about is the VariFlame Adapter?

Maybe but green locktite ,bearings and sleves , 1 drop ..... too much delicate work . Duplex it . Dont forget to pack blackhorn to at least 75lb . Over 100 is better........

 

[ShawnT]

Maybe but green locktite , 1 drop .. too much delicate work . Duplex it .

Possibly, but I doubt it would work, at least not reliably. It is not just the firing pin strike that sets off the primer. It is the combination of the strike driving the primer compound into the anvil. With the primer sitting "Suspended " in the cup there would be nothing for the anvil to sit on. The Firing pin strike would just "Seat" the primer the rest of the way in the cup. I helped trouble shoot a new reloader having an issue like this several years ago. Boiled down to some bad brass and pockets cut way too deep, so took 2 strikes to set off the primer.

Just my 2 cents. But I agree too much trouble. Just decapping the spent 209 and cleaning it out would be a pain.